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[A fascinating discussion by Joe Atwill and Tim Kelly joining all the dots connecting the evil psychiatrist Ewen Cameron, CD Jackson, MK-Ultra, Fake News, Zionists, “Nazis“, Mind Control and Holocau$t Revisionism —  KATANA.]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Our Interesting Times

 

Ewen Cameron, CD Jackson, MK-Ultra, Fake News, Zionists, Nazis, Mind Control and Holocaust Revisionism

 

 

 

 

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Powers & Principalities XI

 

Ewen Cameron, MK-Ultra &

 

Holocaust Revisionism

 

 

Published on Aug 5, 2017

 

 

 

TRANSCRIPT

 

 

 

 

 

[00:43]

 

 

Tim: Joe you’re back. How you doing?

 

Joe: I’m great Tim! How are you doing?

 

Tim: Very well. Doing very well. Thank you. Tonight you want to talk about, well an interesting character, Donald Ewen Cameron. Ewen Cameron, most people know him as. He was a psychiatrist, a very, I guess, theoretical, would you say, a “groundbreaking psychiatrist“, you could say? He was born in Scotland in 1901. He began his career as a resident surgeon at Glasgow Infirmary. In 1929 he moved to Canada to work in Brandon Mental Hospital. 1936 he became a director of research at Worcester State Hospital in Massachusetts, so he came to United States. In 1938 he was appointed professor of neurology and psychiatry at Albany State Medical School.

 

[Image] Donald Ewen Cameron.

Donald Ewen Cameron (24 December 1901 – 8 September 1967)  — known as D. Ewen Cameron or Ewen Cameron — was a Scottish-born psychiatrist who served as President of the American Psychiatric Association (1952–1953), Canadian Psychiatric Association (1958-1959),  American Psychopathological Association (1963), Society of Biological Psychiatry (1965)[4] and World Psychiatric Association (1961-1966). Notwithstanding his high professional reputation, he has been criticized for administering electroshock therapy and experimental drugs to patients without their informed consent. Some of this work took place in the context of the Project MK-Ultra mind control program. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Ewen_Cameron

 

So he has quite a resume! During the Second World War he began working for the Office of Strategic Services [OSS]. So here we have a member of the British, subject the British Empire working for the United States, working for the OSS. In 1943 he went to Canada and established a psychiatry department — that’s curious — during the war, at Montreal’s McGill University, director of the Alan Memorial Institute, which was later implicated in some infamous experiments on some patients, under the guise of MK-Ultra and also some other programs with the Canadian government.

 

Also a curious experience during the war. He apparently examined and interrogated Rudolf Hess, and worked for Allen Dulles in Europe. So he had that background.

 

And of course, under MK-Ultra, he tested his theories, I guess it was called “de-patterning” where he wiped, scrubbed people’s brains clear. He takes some patients that went in for some minor things like postpartum depression, anxiety, and destroyed their minds! And this was funded by the CIA through the Human Ecology Fund, I believe. And also through interest in some Department of Education grants, or Department of Health Education Welfare grants and some other government agencies, DOD [Department of Defense] of course.

 

Joe: Rockefeller, …

 

Tim: And the Rockefeller Foundation. So just it’s kind of a wide, … Also a lot of money from the Canadian government, as well. More money came from the Canadian government. And it’s said that he was operating in Canada because the CIA didn’t want to break the law in experiments on US citizens. Yeah, right! [laughing]

 

So anyway, that is Ewen Cameron. That’s his experience in MK-Ultra. He died in 1967, having a heart attack while on a skiing trip. So, where do you want to, how do you want to enter this discussion?

 

Joe: Well, he’s someone who really should be understood. I mean, just you couldn’t have an individual that’s more important, in my opinion. You have to get a good grip on.

 

Cameron is important, because he spans, and was integral to, two absolutely central narratives, basically. One of them was tangential, and that is the MK-Ultra stuff. And so basically, MK-Ultra even though, it has this concept of being, you know, studying basically individual psychological people. And the idea has come about that it was going to create, you know, a Manchurian Candidate, or mind control puppets.

 

[Image] Robert Gordon Wasson (September 22, 1898 – December 23, 1986) author and ethnomycologist. Photograph by Allan B. Richardson in 1955, Mexico. He was an American author, amateur ethnomycologist, and Vice President for Public Relations at J.P. Morgan & Co. In the course of independent research, Wasson made contributions to the fields of ethnobotany, botany, and anthropology. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Gordon_Wasson

 

It was also against culture in general. Right? I mean, it was basically, when you look at the work of Gordon Wasson and the MK-Ultra funding, you can see that the science was going to be applied on a vast scale! And we’ve talked about where this vast scale psychological operation has various strands. You know, you can trace it back. But, Cameron was very famous, because he got caught!

 

And it really led to a lot of the research that has become the new history that is emerging through the alternative media, which is, that the whole counterculture was a government or “secret society” operation, right? And the reason why Cameron was so central, is that he got caught!

 

 

[05:08]

 

 

You know, it’s a kind of a long story, and it’s not kind of what I want to get into, but basically people were able to bring testimony – and there was enough corroboration that it was just inescapable – that Cameron had done this “de-patterning”, which was basically using humans to see if he could erase their mind, their memory, and then recreate a new human being, basically a new mind. This was done without their consent, obviously. No one would consent to this. So it was experimentation with a very strong moral authority, in other words Cameron was taking the position that, you know, my science is more important than your existence. Right!

 

This is the same moral authority we see in the creation of the counterculture. I mean, who would create the Grateful Dead? Who would have the idea of doing that and have them give out millions of tabs of LSD to teenagers which would produce, you know, wasted lives and in many cases just shattered minds? But some group does have this authority and Cameron was part of it.

 

Now, in Cameron’s case he got caught. They brought all this evidence, meticulous scientific evidence, you know, showing that here these people were, here are the symptoms, here is a corroborating, … Sort of, there was some documentation on what they were like when they left by other psychiatrists would examine them. And they brought their [law] suits and the CIA fessed up, and it said OK, you know, we’re going to give you a bunch of money. And so they basically bought off the victims of Cameron’s experiments.

 

So Cameron led to then, you know, a lot of research into MK-Ultra. And this then kind of began to bring about the idea of that MK-Ultra was really not just individual science, ah, science that we can affect individuals, but science on a broad scale.

 

And so, this was really troubling to me. And I’ve mentioned this a couple of times, Tim, I’ve said, you know, I don’t understand how Ewen Cameron could have done the things that he did, because he is the one who brought to the world the idea of the Germans as a nation that was guilty of atrocity.

 

Cameron was of an amazingly high stature in the world of psychology. He had, basically, he was running the whole science at this time. He was the head of some world organisation. He was the head of the Canadian psychological departments. And so, he was called on to provide basically the science that would underline what became known as the Nuremberg Trial.

 

[Image] Aerial view of Nuremberg’s “Palace of Justice” in winter 1945-46

 

And so, he wrote two books about the Germans. And basically they began, with some other events that we’ll go into in a second, but they began the idea that there was a problem with the German race. So you had, …

 

Tim: Like a congenital defect, or something?

 

Joe: Like it was a congenital defect, right! So he wrote these books, one of which he wrote before he arrived in Nuremberg, and the other afterwards. And this is what created the basis for the idea of “German collective guilt”.

 

He said that, basically, that we had to be certain that we would restructure the German psychology. De-patterning, right. So that it would never arise as a military threat.

 

So, it was Cameron, then, who basically, … And he used expressions like:

 

Germany needed to become the ward of the world!

 

Now that’s pretty chilling, given that the wards [patients] of his psychological clinic, didn’t end up too well, right!

 

But it was just background in psychiatric practice that formed the basis, right, of how the world then, you know, had his narrative that Germany and the German race were guilty of atrocity, mental illness.

 

 

[10:01]

 

 

Tim: Hey Joe?

 

Joe: Yeah? Yes sir?

 

Tim: I’ve got a connection issue. Can give you a call back?

 

Joe: Oh, sure.

 

Tim: Okay, thanks. We are back.

 

Okay, go ahead.

 

Joe: Okay. So I had this problem in that it was illogical. On one hand Cameron was saying he was one bringing us the understanding of the Germans as the nation committing atrocities and, on the other hand, he was committing the very atrocities he was accusing the Germans! It just made no sense!

 

And then I realized that it would be logical if what Cameron was doing was, in fact, part of the same operation that he was involved with when he was taking funding from MK-Ultra. Right? In other words, if he was creating basically psychological control for the organization, and he was creating the fake narratives! Just like you had the fake narratives in the counterculture.

 

You know you have the idea that Wasson was this individual who just was interested in mushrooms, who ends up in Mexico and, you know, find spiritual enlightenment with magic mushrooms, and then Henry Luce publishes his story. And the next thing, you know, here comes the counterculture!

 

You go into it a little bit and you can see the story is fake and the narrative is fake and it’s just being done to set us up! So that was the way that I thought, well if that’s the case with Cameron, who is part of this MK-Ultra system, then that would suddenly, … Then the fact that he boasts, was able to basically exterminate human beings. Because that’s it literally what he was doing!

 

And also accuse the German grounds of morality, would suddenly become logical. You see what I mean? In other words, now it makes sense that Cameron is simply creating a fictional narrative. His moral authority is such that he can lie, and he can exterminate human beings. And that would mean that Ewen Cameron was not a character from history that was deeply illogical, but rather he was just a lifetime actor. You know, we discussed this.

 

And so when I compared Cameron, I tried to look at sort of to the story that he brought up about the German atrocities. I looked for examples of the other aspects of the things that became the foundation of the German atrocity concept, right?

 

[Image] Charles Douglas Jackson.

Charles Douglas Jackson was born in New York City on 16th March 1902. After graduation from Princeton University in 1924, he joined the media industry. In 1931 he went to work with Henry Luce at Time Magazine. Influenced by the right-wing views of his employer, Jackson became President of the Council for Democracy.

During the Second World War Jackson served as special assistant to the Ambassador to Turkey before joining the OSS in 1943. The following year he was appointed Deputy Chief at the Psychological Warfare Division at Supreme Headquarters Allied Expeditionary Force (SHAEF).

After the war, Jackson became Managing Director of Time-Life International. In 1948 Frank Wisner, who worked with Jackson in the OSS, was appointed as director of the Office of Special Projects. Soon afterwards it was renamed the Office of Policy Coordination (OPC). This became the espionage and counter-intelligence branch of the Central Intelligence Agency. See more here: http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/13700-charles-douglas-jackson-and-the-zapruder-film/

 

You have the Nuremberg trials. You have the atrocities that were listed. And when I studied them I found an interesting thing, that this character CD Jackson [Charles Douglas Jackson] had been involved with, … He was from the OSS.

 

He was later, someone who worked with the CIA, and he had been the head of the OSS Psychological Warfare Department. I’m butchering the title, but he was basically very high up, and he had a relationship with Allen Dulles. And he was sort of Dulles’ eyes on the ground, in post-war Europe.

 

[Image] CD Jackson at Buchenwald? Source: https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t988597/

 

And there’s a picture which purports to be CD Jackson and he’s at Buchenwald [concentration camp]. And there you have two of the components of the narrative! Of the German atrocity narrative. And they are “shrunken heads”, two shrunken heads, and a lamp that has a human skin for the covering of the shade.

 

 

So, next to it, is this picture of CD. He’s there next to the table. People can look at those, they’re online and you can see the photograph.

 

 

Now I have seen shrunken heads Tim, because I’ve lived in South America and they are from time to time for sale in, you know, street bazaars and whatnot. And I can guarantee you that the shrunken heads that are on the table are not of prisoners from a German POW camp! They are basically, they are legitimate shrunken heads, but they’re from South America. And it’s easy to tell by the hair cut that these heads have. They are not, you know, from anyone who is inside a POW camp. And the lamp shade has, it’s a video and you can actually see that the lampshade does not possess any tattoos, which is the claim that they were human skin which you could verify, because there were tattoos. However when the camera moves and you can see that the lampshade doesn’t seem to have any. Now, both of these things, which are well-known inside the narrative of German atrocities have disappeared!

 

 

 

[15:17]

 

It’s amazing, because they would be probably, you know, some of the important historical artifacts in our history, but they have disappeared.

 

So the fact that Jackson was involved with them is very suspicious to me, because of who he was. He worked with Henry Luce he became the publisher of Time Life, where Gordon Wasson has the story of the magic mushrooms. CD Jackson is the individual who created the Bilderberg Society, the American branch of it, or the American participation in Bilderberg.

 

And then I think most importantly is he is the one who sequestered, who purchased and sequestered, the Zapruder’s JFK film, right?

 

 

So that line up is extremely curious! And it is made coherent by the fact that he was also part of Operation Mockingbird! Now this is where everything starts to clear up to my mind, because with Operation Mockingbird you are now deep into the kind of social control that the Secret Society was creating with the MK-Ultra science, right? Operation Mockingbird, pretty well vetted, you know, listeners can do their research, but it was basically taking control of the media by government intelligence for the purpose of propaganda. To creating fake narratives. And now when you look backwards and you see CD’s participation in the narrative of the atrocity, … For it to be logical it all has to be part of one system.

 

CD Jackson is another individual like Ewen Cameron that, you know, he had the moral authority to participate in Operation Mockingbird where the citizens are being fed false narratives for the purpose of propaganda.

 

He had the moral authority to, you know, basically sequester the Zapruder film when obviously, the population needed to see it. And so, when you see him involved with the beginning of the atrocities that become part of the Holocaust narrative, the way that this is logical to me Tim, is that you have, … It’s all part of the same process. That’s all just one narrative.

 

And then the last curious fact I’ll bring up, I’m sorry to be long-winded. But, you know we had another show we talked about Edward Bernays, and how he talked about propaganda. He talked about mind control, and we have examples of him setting up what becomes the counterculture. And incidentally he did work with Wasson, Gordon Wasson, for ten years — they were very close friends.

 

And so Edward Bernays, who is the weird double nephew of Sigmund Freud, he was clearly involved in what becomes the culturally debased, anti-family, anti-Catholic, anti-ethnic community. Pro-feminism, you know, feminism, or Gloria Steinem’s version of feminism, pro-drug use, and pro-single mom. I mean, in other words, and pro-pornography! Bernays particularly is important in the production of pornography. And so, you know, …

 

Tim: So that is the early twentieth century like with “Damaged Goods [a play],

 

[Image] The play “Damaged Goods” (click image to enlarge).

 

Joe: Exactly right. And he brings up Naginski [sp] who is miming masturbation on stage and he’s producing a play with Rockefeller money, mind you. At the very beginning of the twentieth century. And so, Bernays is clearly plugged into this whole process by which a narrative about, you know, what is good? Sex, drugs and rock’n’roll essentially, is being established. But now when you look for it, …

 

Tim: Back then, wasn’t it “drugs, sex and jazz”? [laughing]

 

Joe: Yeah! Exactly! Yes sir! [laughing]

 

Tim: Rock’n’roll hadn’t been invented yet. [laughing]

 

Joe: Yeah, rock’n’roll wasn’t, … Right, it was drugs, sex and, … But anyway, … Yeah that’s how far back goes. But anyway so, you know, Dave McGowan shows that there is a generational issue. And this is obvious, because we’re not looking at a, you know, a project that is, you know, MK-Ultra or the CIA. I mean, this is a vast project!

 

This goes back, certainly to Gyorgy Lukács, … wrecking the name!

 

Tim: Talked about, you know, Hungary.

 

Joe: At the end of World War One! Right? Where where he’s trying to, you know, produce a debased sexual education for the recently conquered Hungarian country, under the promotion of Bela Kuhn.

 

 

[20:39]

 

 

 

And so that then becomes a Frankfurt School, which then becomes the American jewish Committee’sAuthoritarian Personality”, which then becomes the Macy Conference, which then becomes MK-Ultra. And we’ve done other shows, and we’ve shown all these connections.

 

So Bernays is just absolutely plugged into it, and now when you come forward one generation, what do you get? Well, you get this weird guy Murray Bernays! He’s the nephew, … Right? Again, like, one nephew from Freud, and now you have Edward’s nephew, Murray Bernays. And who is Murray Bernays?

 

Well, he creates the Nuremberg Trial.

 

The Nuremberg Trial was never really intended, … I mean, obviously to be a kind of, you know, “actual trial”! It was a “propaganda”. And Murray was in the Special Projects branch.

 

And so he basically designed the Nuremberg Trial. And with the idea that they would just have the impression of an actual trial, but that none of the people could really bring evidence in their defense, and then at the end of it they would be, you know, made guilty, and then you’d have this propaganda moment. So, this is, .. See, this is very clear, unfortunately.

 

And when you look at CD Jackson, … And incidentally one interesting thing about CD Jackson, that I found in doing research, is that Jackson’s not his real name, his real name was Jacobson, he was jewish. Now there’s some dispute about this, but the source is primary, someone who lived next to him at the Dakota Hotel. And in a book about the Dakota, that individual is questioned and he has absolutely no reason to lie about it, I mean, it’s going to be in a public document and he goes —“well, you know”, he’s talking about CD Jackson his next door neighbor and he said:

 

Yeah, it’s really interesting. CD, you know, his name wasn’t Jackson, it was Jacobson, he was jewish. And his father owned something called Jacobson’s Marble”.

 

And now this has been scrubbed! Very mysterious. I’d like to have some citizen researchers help with this, to vet this idea, [it’s] very important to know this. Because if this is correct, and I think it is, because of how primary and clear the, you know, the documentation is. And also the fact that CD Jackson stated that his father was in the marble business. He doesn’t say he changed the name, but the fact that he was in the marble business, I’ve been able to verify. So this looks pretty clear. So that’s why when you get to basically, the Nuremberg Trial, you have a very clear picture of a narrative being created.

 

Now, you know, people will talk about “Holocaust denial”, which of course, is illegal in many countries. Which, you know, is sort of suspicious in and of itself. I mean, if their evidence was good why does it have to be illegal to discuss it? But it is.

 

But, this really isn’t something that I think, you know, it’s sort of like the historical individual that’s kind of, has been, there’s a mythology that develops around [it].

 

People will argue:

 

Well was the individual historical or not?

 

And to me, .. Just so as I can explain this clearly, it’s like, you know, the person who created the cartoon character Donald Duck had a duck that his neighbor owned, who’s name was Donald, right. Okay, now does that mean that Donald Duck the cartoon is a historical character? [Tim starts chuckling] Well, that’s a semantical issue, and you can’t answer it. And it’s like well, in some ways he you could, but the fact is that the historical Donald could not talk! He couldn’t speak English! So it’s fiction! But it’s not completely fiction. And so you have this like, with historical characters, you know, Buddha, Jesus, you know, people are always arguing:

 

Well, you know, can you prove it?

 

When you know, you can’t! It’s just impossible. But what you can do is understand the genre.and a cartoon is not history. Right?

 

[25:27]

 

And so with the “Holocaust”, in terms of denying it, that seems to me like the position of negation of someone who’s saying, well the Buddha could not have existed, because we know that no one can live on one grain of rice, a day, for a year.

 

Right? Okay. Well, but wait, he could have existed, this could just be an embellishment. With the “Holocaust” you have these people try to attack those who want to understand what happened, to bring up the details, and facts that we know about these events, and try to see if they are, in fact, created in the right context.

 

And then they’re attacked on the grounds that:

 

Well, this is ‘Holocaust denial’!

 

And, so I think that is sophistry. I think that the people who want to revisit the “Holocaust”, because of what we have uncovered in terms of the government production of the counterculture, right? Are trying to determine not, whether or not, there were camps, or whether or not, there were jews in camps, or whether or not this was morally defensible. None of these things are even on the table.

 

The question to me is, were the events taken and placed into a fictional context, for the purpose of propaganda?

 

And that’s what I think, when you go through these three individuals that I’ve mentioned: Bernays, Cameron and CD Jackson.

 

I think that it is far more logical, I mean just clearly, you know, makes much more sense to look at these guys, and their activity, as part of a propaganda narrative. And not one that doesn’t end with the conclusion of the Nuremberg Trial, but never basically ends! One that just continues to go forward, until now we have, you know, even, and then, the last atrocity element, which is the gas chambers.

 

Which, when I try to do research into it, and I really have done the best I can, just makes no sense to me!

 

Tim: Yeah, yeah, this, it’s accepted as gospel, you know. I’m reading about MK-Ultra and they talk about the Nazis, “Paperclip Nazis” and it is treated as if MK-Ultra is some sort of virus that’s brought in, with the Nazis. As if, you know, … unable to xxx treachery, lest we bring in these Nazis to infect our, you know, our system.

 

And within this description they talk about the experiments, these things, which may, or may not, have happened, maybe they’re embellished as well, probably are, just like the other aspects of the so-called “Holocaust” are probably extreme of embellishments, to say the least. But they’re just, .. You’ll hear the thing about Zyklon-B, and IG Farben. And it’s almost as if people are forced to include that, lest they be accused of, you know, of being a denialist or, and having your reputation, or their careers ruined, because there really is no evidence once you look at it. Just to see, .. That IG Farben, that Zyklon-B was used, the gas chambers aren’t there. In fact, Dachau I think, CD Jackson and Hollywood directors actually constructed a fake gas-chamber, as a part of a post-war tour they’d give there, to dignitaries and senators.

 

Joe: Absolutely, the films ….

 

Tim: The films that were produced by Alfred Hitchcock and Billy Wilder, and just the footage we have of the bodies being bulldozed. A lot of those are air-raid victims, or typhus victims. And the reality is that all the film we have of the so-called “Holocaust” is from the Western camps, which even based on the official narrative, weren’t part of the “Final Solution”. That all occurred in the east, and we have no film evidence of that.

 

In fact the aerial photography from reconnaissance during the war, show no such activity going on. Nor are there any records, requisition records, fuel, you know, fuel requisitions, all this display??? Isn’t in the documentary, or physical evidence to support that narrative. So all we have are some horror stories, largely coming from the Russian side, which I would say isn’t a reliable source. So, there’s much there to be skeptical about this, to say the least.

 

 

[30:01]

 

 

Joe: Yeah, exactly right! And, in fact, I think that we have to put it now into the context of, basically, the revelations concerning MK-Ultra, and the fact that we know that our government engages in the production of “narratives”.

 

I think that Gordon Wasson’s exposé, is probably the most important thing the citizens have been given, you know, I mean, … Since the Roman Empire! I mean, this is really, really important for citizens to know that!

 

Because there’s when you can really verify, it is both completely fake, and absolutely central to an enormous social program, you know, the counterculture! You know, …

 

Tim: Yes, so it reverberates today…

 

Joe: Yes it still reverberates today. And that of course, can now, you know, when you look at like, you know, the things that you’ve shown about the assault on the cities. How the ethnic communities, the Catholic communities in America’s cities, were then, … These communities were deliberately attacked.

 

Tim: Hmm, hmm.

 

Joe: To break them up, and to push them into the suburbs, to create the vast deracinated middle-class, right? That would then be susceptible to the now: Sex, drugs, and rock’n’roll, at this point.

 

Tim: Yeah, you create the vast wastelands of suburbia, where people are all going into debt, with their consumer goods. And yet they still can’t find happiness, and they find themselves on the anxiety medicine. Because kids no longer have their parishes, no longer have churches, or their ethnic lineage, they are deracinated. You’re right, they’re cut off, and now they have no roots, nothing to appeal to, nothing to refer to, and they wonder why they are unhappy.

 

Joe: Yeah! Well they have no … got no capacity to resist the mind control. You know, they can’t resist pornography. And pornography, I mean, like the Germans are, you know, claimed to be, sexually deranged, in doing these kinds of activities, but then when you go forward and look at what’s being promoted by the government and the counterculture.

 

How the government is promoting xxx in the sixties and seventies. Then you can see that the charges against the Germans, to this regard. The charges, are just like the charges that Cameron made, …

 

Tim: Yeah!

 

Joe: About them, you know, being in fact, a group that was capable of atrocities. For heaven’s sakes! When you are actually doing what you’re accusing the other individuals of being guilty of! You just don’t have the moral authority! And yet they do it time and time again!

 

Tim: Yes! He’s standing in the rubble of a bombed out German city, lecturing the Germans on their atrocities…

 

Joe: Yeah!

 

Tim: … And you’re asking, well who bombed the city?

 

Joe: Yeah! Well who fire bombed? Who deliberately targeted civilians? And then you, you know… So you see, this is the thing, and it gets back to my little story about Donald Duck. Is that at the end of the day, I think you’ll find, a basically a foundation of truth.

 

I am sure jews were in concentration camps.

 

Tim: Yeah, yeah.

 

Joe: I’m sure many of them were mistreated, because there would have been tremendous antagonism between German soldiers, and I don’t think that they would have been sought out for any special atrocities. I can’t find any evidence of that.

 

Tim: It kind of depends on where you are, because you’re mixing, … When you talk about the “Holocaust” they talk about the camps, the labor camps, which are industrial concerns, you know, IG Farben, IBM, General Motors, Standard Oil, — all involved. But then they mix in, like these police battalions on the Eastern Front, or near the front, where they’re fighting with these partisans. And you can’t mix the two, because they are two different environments. [You] can’t mix, the battlefield, you know, this raging battle, to what was going on maybe in Poland, or in parts of Germany, — [they’re] two different things. Not, .. I’m not justifying, what happened to, you know, because these Einsatzgruppen, who would go behind the lines, police battalions to clear out, under the guise of anti-partisan activity; killed a lot of jews! And they wrote about it. Now, also that was their job, this is the “anti-commissar order” that was written up. But the way the Germans saw it, the Germans saw a lot of jews as being Bolsheviks.

 

[35:01]

 

So a lot of jews were going to be killed in that battle, in the carnage on the Eastern Front, that level of destruction, there was, ..

 

Joe: Exactly! Right, well said!

 

Tim: And not to mention he Soviet Union. They would carry out atrocities and blame them on the Germans! So it’s psychological warfare, it’s propaganda. Remember, the partisans would go out and they would kill German soldiers. So you’re going to have, … Germans aren’t going to be that sympathetic on the battlefield, or that discriminatory about who they kill. And if you want to know, if you want to single out the Germans for being particularly brutal in that factor, … Just look what happened in Vietnam with the Phoenix Program? The search and destroy missions and these things, …

 

Joe: Right!

 

Tim: … And multiply that by ten on the Eastern Front. Because it was a much larger war.

 

Joe: Yeah!

 

Tim: It is war! And the war itself was a crime, as you say, I mean, the war itself was a crime. And, you know, to pick out this here, as being somehow exceptional from some of the other atrocities, which is the war itself, to me, is well, it’s hypocritical! And you’re being highly selective in your, …

 

Joe: Well worse, it’s a fake narrative for the purpose of propaganda!

 

Tim: Yes! Because you’re singling out one side being particularly brutal, when just look at the, … Look at the landscape of Europe! It takes two to tango!

 

Joe: But, you know, Tim, what I’m seeing, is that the Germans are basically the sort of premier European people. And now you look at this false narrative that comes out of World War Two, and it starts long before any of the data, really, is coming in! I mean, the concept of the “German atrocity” were being developed in 1942 – 43! This is long before anyone, you know, has detailed information about what’s going on in the camps.

 

But the narrative is being established so, …

 

Tim: That is right! It’s being fed through, supplied through Harry Dexter White and Henry Morgenthau at the Treasury Department. Because they ran the War Refugee Board!

 

Joe: Right, and with Ben Hecht writing stories, you know, in Reader’s Digest, …

 

Tim: Yeah!

 

Joe: Where in 1943 he talks about six million jews at risk!

 

Tim: So you have a communist and a committed Zionist, creating the “Holocaust” narrative!

 

Joe: Right! And so, just like the gas chamber, and the shrunken heads, and the human head [skin] lampshades, the six million number is frankly demonstrably preposterous! It just is a metaphorical number, representing the jewish people.

 

I don’t know if you’ve ever seen any of the analysis of the use of the term, but “six-million” gets used, you know, thirty, forty times in the media, in the European media, before World War Two breaks out!

 

Tim: Yeah, exactly!

 

Joe: Representing the jewish people who are at risk from, …

 

Tim: They once blamed the Tsar for putting six-million at risk.

 

Joe: Right! Exactly! So, this is where, … But you see, you’re starting to develop a very clear understanding, because, you know, well the lampshades have disappeared, and they don’t appear in the movie to have any, you know, there’s no tattoos on them.

 

The human heads are just preposterous! I mean, the skin is black, and the idea that, that was, a POW from World War II, is just ridiculous!

 

The gas chambers make no sense! Just numerically, make no sense at all! I mean, … And also mechanically. I try to go through how they would kill all these people in these little gas chambers, and then get all the bodies out, and then have enough coal, or whatever it is, to burn them all. And then of course, then you have the question of habeas corpus! Where are all the bodies? Right?

 

Tim: That’s a whole lot of, a whole lot of bodies to bury, and lots of bodies to get rid of here.

 

Joe: Right! So, so again it’s you get to the idea, well they may have had gas chambers, people may have died in them, but they weren’t some kind of industrial genocidal machine! Right?

 

It’s just that, just isn’t any way that this can be true. And so you’ve got to the point where, you know, it’s like with the character Donald Duck, you now understand the genre of the story! We’re not being given history here. We are being given propaganda! And that’s my point Tim, is that we can be sure of that!

 

Tim: A good example is if you were a prisoner, an inmate, at one of these camps, labor camps, you probably saw a fair amount of brutality, people being treated harshly, even maybe summary executions. And that’s your perspective, you see that. All of a sudden you hear the story of the “Holocaust” and in your mind, you’ve witnessed the “Holocaust”! Although you saw something completely different. It wasn’t an attempt to annihilate an entire race, it was just the type of treatment you get in a labor camp, a slave labor camp, during a war.

 

 

 

[40:05]

 

 

 

Joe: Yeah. And, you know, when I read like the Red Cross reports which are very meticulous. People can contest one way, or another, but they do exist. And they actually have a number of 270,000 for the total mortalities in the camps during World War Two. And they say that maybe forty percent of the population were jews. Then you have, you know, it is a tremendous tragedy, but it is not the unique atrocity that then becomes part of a very powerful narrative propaganda.

 

Tim: Well it’s like this, what if in the United States, if we had the reality of the internment camps the concentration camps for the Japanese on the West Coast in the United States. And that was a tremendous injustice, to take their property, and in fact, I think the Hyatt Hotel chain is based on stolen property. [laughing]Friends” within the Treasury Department gave it to them. The whole jewish mobster thing. But that was an incredible injustice to those xxx hundred thousand Japanese. Now what if, on that basis, because that is what it is, okay, They were interned and they were released their civil rights were violated. They lost their property, these things. But what if from that reality this narrative was spun that three million of them were worked to death, or murdered in an attempt to annihilate the entire Japanese people. Would that be a fair, …?

 

Joe: Exactly!

 

Tim: No that wouldn’t, …

 

Joe: Yeah. And that’s a great analogy, because that’s what’s happened. And you see the idea of “Holocaust denier”, this is just an expression to try to dominate the debate. You know, it places the person who is trying to bring this information forward as denying that jews died in the camps.

 

Tim: Or bad things happened to jews.

 

Joe: Yeah, right! Or that there weren’t even, you know, atrocities. Right?

 

Tim: Or that you advocate bad things! Which is illogical. [laughing]

 

Joe: Yeah. What I’m suggesting is that the better approach is to try to not permit that concept to be something which defeats, you know, intellectual exploration. What I think is that really you try to put on the table, particularly for the public, … Because, you know, in the alternative media I think these ideas can be discussed pretty objectively right now.

 

And I think that there really is a revisionism to the “Holocaust” that just going on. Because they are somewhat bad data inside of it. Unfortunately I think people are pointing out perhaps accurately that some of this is coming from a bad place in the heart. There is, you know, legitimate anti-semitism. OK? But, that has nothing to do with the idea of, are these details capable of being analysed? I mean, we should be able to have some kind of process where we come to, do the human heads look like Europeans, you know, [laughing] shrunken head? So, that the thing is, …

 

Tim: It looks like it would be less exasperating, you know, we’re all adults here, can we talk about this? [laughing]

 

Joe: Can’t even talk about it!

 

So, it’s just it’s just that we’re trying to find what genre are we dealing with. Is this a legitimate history, right? Or, was this propaganda? If we are dealing with propaganda then we need to go back and look at the details and recreate the narrative. Because otherwise we are going to have a false history, and a false history leads to catastrophe, as you pointed out, you know, a number of times.

 

False history leads to catastrophe! We need, …

 

Tim: But this is why the narrator has being spun though. The narrative is being spun and promoted not only, because so much of the postwar international establishment depends upon it. Particularly the state of Israel, the reparations which are billions and billions of dollars, the power of the jewish lobby the United States. A sort of moral extortion of the entire Western world, because this collective guilt has now spread from Germans to the entire world. That’s why you have these museums everywhere.

 

Joe: Right, exactly!

 

[Image] Location of Holohoax museums in the USA (click image to enlarge).

 

Tim: Specifically the middle European phenomenon, we have museums all throughout the United States! You know, they expect to put a museum in Iran for some reason! [laughing]

 

Joe: Right. I recently gave an example where it does ill to the culture, … A false narrative is always bad! Propaganda is always evil! Right? You shouldn’t use mind control, you should be able to express what you want honestly and then people can make their own minds up.

 

 

[45:08]

 

 

 

It was when the Hays Code was disbanded. Now that was the Hollywood production code.

 

I think it was always intended to be something that would be destroyed. I think Hayes was a set up. I mean, this is another body of analysis, but the code was good as it presented itself to the public. These were great principles. But in the early sixty’s it basically was done away with.

 

And you have to remember that the Hays Code was put into effect as a way to combat the idea that Hollywood was a jewish debasement of European culture. Because this is really what spawned the Hays Code. Is that if you look at, … I did an interview about this and I was reading a quote of just blatant and, you know, just attacking Hollywood as a jewish plot against European culture. This was after the Fatty Arbuckle event, you know, and where you had all this pornography and there were different scandals, one scandal after another.

 

And so they brought out the Hays Code, and they brought the Catholics, very famously. They brought the Catholics and basically, you know, it’s people who had been involved in the production of the code, because they wanted to, … Pardon?

 

Tim: Joseph Brean?

 

Joe: Yeah. And I’m not sure he was Catholic, but the Catholic Legion of Decency was vetting it. And so the public was being said:

 

Hey look! We don’t have to worry about basically jewish depravity against European culture, because you’ve got this code which the Catholics have been involved with.

 

But then in the sixty’s it’s disbanded. Now why? Well, I suggested that it was an example of the power of Holocaust, because it just became politically impossible to bring up these concerns about one culture attacking another.

 

Tim: You couldn’t be critical of any jewish organizations, jewish dominated industries without being accused of being Adolf Hitler.

 

Joe: Exactly right!

 

Tim: Well it’s interesting, because the movie that broke the production code was Rod Steiger a so-called “Holocaust” survivor, allegedly, in the “Pawn Broker”. It was a “Holocaust” movie, and it showed the topless, …

 

Joe: Was that Otto Premeger?

 

Tim: I think it might have been, I’m not sure [about] that, I’m not sure. But I do know that [in] the movie, the “Pawn Broker“, he was a “Holocaust” survivor and basically it was a “Holocaust” movie. And dealing with it, so a rather artfully, you know, well done movie, but it had that scene that the topless prostitute from the front. And think it was Cardinal Krole, I think, of Philadelphia who was writing about it. And they were trying to explain, the director was trying to say:

 

This is art, you want to see the effects.

 

He says:

 

No. No. Don’t give me that!

 

He’s kind of a streetwise priest. Its the thin end of the wedge here. It’s ridiculous. First of all, from a standpoint of art and effect, it’s much more artful to see his face! Rod Steiger’s face, his reaction to the topless lady, not her breasts! [laughing] you just want to show bare breasts because you want pornography in movies! Don’t give me this “art” crap. Degenerates always try to pass themselves off as artists, you know, that’s an old ploy.

 

Joe: Right! Well that’s fascinating, because that I was unaware of that. I didn’t know that it was a “Holocaust”film. But, this makes perfect sense, very logical, because, the one that I was familiar with, you know, when the code, the code actually was assaulted a number of times. The first time I was aware of was Ottor Premeger’s film. But, immediately after that was the “Pawn Broker“.

 

 

And so the Pawn Broker really can be seen — I have some information in front of me — as the sex scene was really kind of the end of the production code.

 

Tim: Yeah?

 

Joe: And this is a very, very clear example of what happens when you have the false narrative, right?

 

Tim: Yeah. By the way, it’s four years later, almost four years later, network television! The one movie that’s allowed to show nudity on network television is, [pause]Schindler’s List”! [laughing]

 

Joe: Schindler’s List”! So you can see the pattern, is that you have a false narrative that basically sets up a kind of psychological structure. That, from which, the population is intellectually impotent! They can’t defend themselves, because, you know, if you want to go after the “Pawn Broker” you’re basically, now wait a second, this is promoting the horrors of the “Holocaust”.

 

How can you possibly say this? Even if you are ratcheting down your culture into pornography. The “Holocaust” is clearly being used as the bulwark to prevent the population from responding in the way they did in the thirties with the production of the Hays Code in the first place! So there you have it, and that’s why I think it’s so important that we try to move the debate from one of “Holocaust denial” into the question of just —“what genre is it?

You know:

 

Is this propaganda, or is this history?

 

 

[50:47]

 

 

Because when we look at it from that, we just say:

 

Okay, what was propaganda?

 

And then you go:

 

Oh well, I guess the gas chambers are propaganda”.

 

I guess that at the end of World War Two, when you look at CD Jackson sitting there with his two shrunken heads, and his human lampshade lamp, which are fake! Right! And, you know, damn well, the guy is producing propaganda! Because this is the guy who founded the Bilderberg, who sequestered, you know, I mean, the Zapruder film, and was a member of Operation Mockingbird — I mean his whole life is just a fake! His production of fake narratives, right? That control the population.

 

So here he’s in just in perfect logical character, he’s doing exactly what he always does. And so, you know, that these things, you know, you can rest assured that these things are just part of this idea of producing the concept that the Germans were, en masse, engaging in atrocities.

 

And this is being done to create a psychological intimidation, so that the Europeans will not then resist, the coming secret society control, vis a vis, the political system.

 

Tim: Yeah, of course, and you alluded to it earlier, you may want to expand upon how they were specifically targeting the Germans, because they’re central to European identity.

 

Obviously the “war guilt” has completely, psychologically, decapitated Germans, as part of ethnic pride, or national pride for the German State, the German peoples. And you see it today, now, because it makes you unable to articulate, if you’re German, without coming across as a Nazi, any discomfort with the migration of foreigners into your country, for a good example, …

 

Joe: I didn’t mean, … You made such an important point. I’m sorry I interrupted.

 

Tim: You alluded to it earlier, …

 

Joe: Yeah, but, you were pointing out that with the Muslim immigration — which is completely irrational, and culturally destructive — that the Germans cannot resist it, because they will be beaten down by the people who say:

 

Well this is multiculturalism and you’re promoting racism, and this is Nazism and therefore [it’ll] be like a second ‘Holocaust’!

 

Back to your “Holocaust”.

 

Tim: I was talking to a German lady, last year about it. And she was talking about these right-wing political movements rising in Germany. And she’s a pleasant, older lady, but she’s completely, you know, the product of post-war Germany. She has no sense of, I mean, she thought it was just horrible that some people would treat immigrant people, emigrating into Germany, that way, or be opposed to it. But of course, she’s not living there, but it’s, …

 

Joe: Yeah, right.

 

Tim:… And part of that is because she somehow thinks, her people, her country, are uniquely guilty of a horrible crime. And for her to express, …

 

Joe: She is victimized by the false narrative. It’s like you said, that if you actually compare it to a xxx For us to even everything that is known about German atrocities in World War Two, was equaled by the Allies, and then exceeded by the Russians! Right?

 

So the idea that there was some kind of, you know, possibility that the Germans were uniquely deranged, you know, the stuff that Ewen Cameron accuses them of, is simply preposterous! And the poor woman, you know, to live a life victimized by that false narrative.

 

I mean, hopefully, we can get enough information out, that people will start standing up for themselves, and start demanding that they, … People go back and learn the real history, and learn to distinguish between the false narrative, and the propaganda. So that they can have a clear mind, you know.

 

 

[55:00]

 

 

Because, when you look at, why are they bringing the Muslims into Europe? Well, they’re doing it, this is “weaponized immigration”!

 

Tim: Yeah!

 

Joe: It’s not going on for the benefit of anyone, not even for the Muslims who are coming in, this is going to be a gladiatorial pit!

 

Tim: There’s a book written, [by] Kelly Greenfeld [sp], “Weapons of Mass Migration”, that talks about this as a part of statecraft, and geo-politics. I mean, .. It’s written rather coldly, like, this is what you do. [chuckling]

 

Joe: Well, yeah! And the thing is when you get… you have, you know, the concept of weaponization, where they want to shatter the culture, for the purpose of control! What is the purpose of control for? Well it’s to genocide! Right?

 

So, when you look at them promoting multiculturalism.. Well multiculturalism is terrific! Feminism, seems like, in a lot of ways, terrific! What’s wrong with this?

 

Well if it’s weaponized, to be used as an element that is stated to be good, but is being inserted into culture, in such a way as to produce impotent citizens that can be easily controlled, and destroyed, and attacked! Then it’s wrong!

 

Then the citizens have to respond against it, and this is what we’re looking at, and that’s why I think that the stuff we’ve been talking about. With reviewing the elements of the German atrocities, to see what was used as propaganda after World War Two, is really very liberating! It makes for much clearer minds.

 

I was looking at a video, and it showed a very emaciated POW, and they were highlighting his leg, which was just emaciated, like he hadn’t had any food and was about to die of starvation. And then it suddenly stopped, and into the scene appeared Billy Wilder!
[Tim chuckling]

 

And then everyone is sitting and talking and it gets re-shot. Now this is propaganda! You see. Billy Wilder was not there as a historian, he wasn’t brought there to create an accurate history. He was there, because he creates fiction! He’s a propagandist! He’s also a Free-mason, and just a bizarre character.

 

But this is why he is there, and that’s why, you know, when you look at, … It’s just by an amazing quirk of history, it is another Bernays, who is structuring the Nuremberg Trial! Right?

 

You can rest assured you’re not dealing with a process that’s attempting to find the truth; it’s a process to create propaganda! This is what the family [Bernays] does.

 

So we have been, you know, been basically led into a debased and a weakened condition, by a system of propaganda that it’s easy to trace all the way back to György Lukács after World War One, and even before that.

 

So, people just need to find the energy to do the research, to verify everything that we’ve been saying, so that they can do their own research, and get information that’s now available, and clear their minds up, Tim!

 

Tim: And you mention, of course, CD Jackson and his role in Mockingbird, which I think dates around 1949, which is pretty much right after the CIA was created. So that program was instituted immediately after the CIA was created. Of course, you also have Frank Wisner, who referred to his effort, his ability, to manipulate the American people, through the media, the “Mighty Wurlitzer”. You play the people like a Wurlizter organ. And this is done through the control of the media, through CIA, Mockingbird, and also through the Time Life Empire, which goes back to Skull and Bones.

 

All goes back to the same secret society that created outfits, which created things like the CIA. Which is sort of this consummation of the sort of incestuous relationship, that these families, the financial interests, the banks, have with government, going way back in history. At least in American history at that time. Because you saw that with the Spanish-American War. National City Bank worked with the newspapers, the yellow journalists to foment that war, so they could seize the sugar fields in Cuba, and also go expand into Asia, and then work with the Japanese, … [chuckling]

 

Joe: Yeah!

 

Tim: … For a while, until they turned on the Japanese.

 

 

 

[60:04]

 

 

 

Joe: I mean you have like the first, you know, like heads of the CIA. You’ve got Donovan, Dulles, and Helms.

 

Well, what is their, … you know, like common theme? Well, they’re all investment banking attorneys!

 

Tim: Yeah.

 

Joe: You know, well wait a sec. This is supposed to be, you know, international intelligence organization, that we can’t, …you know, how come every single one of them, basically is a manager of money using legality. It just seems preposterous, and then, of course, Donovan is working with the head of the OSS in Europe, with setting up things like, you know, the Nuremberg trial.

 

And this is Mellon, right? I mean, this is like General whatever, you know. Colonel Mellon, who’s like the scion of the Mellon family! I mean, the influence of the banking families, inside of this mess, is self-evident! And just another, … Oh, it’s just another clear point, that the public needs to recognize, to understand that it is an organized society. The democracy we have is fake! Decisions were being made, based on the propaganda.

 

I mean, the women you talked about, who believed that the Germans had somehow uniquely committed crimes against humanity. You know, that’s an individual that can’t participate in democracy, reasonably. Because they have a false history.

 

Tim: Because she can’t even, … She’s so, … Her guilt is so pathological, and so internalized, that the assault on her own community, her own ethnicity, she can’t even articulate an argument, she can’t even feel it!

 

Joe: Yeah, that’s right! And that’s like when you see, like college kids, women, who are, you know, victims of cultural Marxism, that you want to basically, physically defend safe spaces, that, .. So they can have just these culturally destructive organizations. The whole history of how these ideas came into that person’s head, needs to be exposed to the individual. So that then they can go:

 

Oh, my gosh! I have been controlled! I’m heading off a cliff, …

 

Tim: Well, these are like foundational beliefs. It’s very hard when you come across something as defining as the “Holocaust” narrative, and you find that it starts to crumble under scrutiny. All of a sudden your worldview starts to crumble, and what happens is you’re not going…

 

Joe: What are you going to do? Well, that’s, …

 

Tim: Oh, I got to start, I got to get to work! Because I can’t trust these institutions that educated me, that informed me, the media! So you have two choices, you can say:

 

Now this is insane, and I’m not going to hear it, and I’m just going to go back to where I think the world is, because I’ve already put so many, … I’ve invested so much time into it, and it would require me to go back and re-evaluate so much. And I don’t have time, nor have the inclination to do this. I’m not going to do this. I’d rather, … I’m much more comfortable with the moralistic fairy tale I’ve been given, and so I’m not going hear any more!

 

Joe: Yeah.

 

Tim: So, you let your world crumble, and then you realise:

 

Huh oh! Why, you can’t rely on the universities to educate you, and why am I paying for it? you can’t rely on the constitutional legal authorities to protect your Rights. You can’t rely on government. You can’t rely on the media. You can’t read the newspapers, or the, you know, the mainstream media to inform you. I have to start thinking.

 

I’m all of a sudden, you’re kind of stuck in a sort of a befuddlement, because now, where do you get your information from? It becomes very confusing and bewildering. And if you’re, … like most people, you just want the media to kind of distill the news for you, provide it for you, put it in a little package, wrap it with a little bow, this is how the world works. Most people want that, because they have to go to work, and then the leisure time, either do something with their family, or they want to be entertained.

 

And who has the time, who has the time to hold these psychopaths accountable?

 

That’s the big problem, no one has the practical time to hold these psychopaths accountable!

 

And this is why self-government; the rule of law; democracy; is such a sham! Because no one puts the time in to hold these crooks, and psychopaths accountable!

 

Joe: They don’t have the time, and they don’t have the capacity and that’s why, of course, the Internet is so dangerous to the oligarchs, because:

 

One, the citizens can communicate with one another. As for example, us now with the people who are listening to the show. And moreover, you can get vast amounts of information very quickly. And if people start thinking clearly, then it becomes very dangerous because, you know, I think when you have someone, for example, like the individual you were talking about who is confused, [it’s] hard to reach them, even with facts, and clear analysis. But as people start to move down the path you describe, it starts out with a little bit of humility, and it’s very humbling.

 

[65:25]

 

Oh my gosh! I can’t believe this, I’ve been fooled! Very, very humbling!

 

I remember when I spent like a very bad couple months looking at the building seven [WTC7] collapse. And I had to do this kind of bizarre mental-shift thinking, that I’ve been dealing with the “Government” and “My Nation”, the way I have been told about it, and then suddenly I realize, wait a second, it’s completely fake!

 

Tim: Yeah.

 

Joe: And that was very difficult, and it’s gotten better though, because now there are, at that time there really wasn’t, you know, the media hadn’t really blossomed, but now, it’s just, basically it’s spreading everywhere. And so groups are becoming established, people are resisting, and the basic natural capacity of the human intellect is being unleashed!

 

Tim: Yeah, if you don’t believe that buildings can be hit by airplanes, and aviation fuel can cause them to collapse, free-fall, and symmetrical collapse, you may doubt, you may be skeptical, when the doctor says, your new-born baby should be given hepatitis-B shot! [laughing]

 

Joe: [laughs]

 

Tim: I find the same people who don’t doubt babies being given hepatitis-B shots, under the cover of vaccines, also don’t, … have no problem with watching these buildings collapse free-fall, and symmetrical collapse, suffering symmetrical damage.

 

Joe: What a great analysis! In your interview with April Bowden?

 

Tim: Yeah.

 

Joe: You cover that point, and it’s just so profound! It’s like:

 

Look if they’re going to be giving new-born males vaccines against sexually transmitted disease, then the whole system is completely fake!

 

Tim: Why would anyone to touch me? Get away from me! You’re a quack, a nut!

 

Joe: Yeah! Just get out of there! And so that’s the moment. It’s when the citizen just, … I don’t know how to bring it about, I wish I did, Tim. I wish I could find some way of expressing the research I’ve done, or the thinking that I’ve done, about these things, in a form that would help people get their light turned on! Everyone basically has to go their own path, I imagine.

 

Tim: Yeah, well a lot of, … I guess as I talk about these things in mixed company, if you raise questions, ask something, they act as if you think you have the answer. No, what I’m saying is, I don’t! [chuckling]

 

Joe: Right.

 

Tim: I’m just pointing out these inconsistencies, these problems. Explain this to me in the context of the official narrative we’ve been given. I’m pointing out that the narratives that we’ve been given, are false!

 

Joe: Right.

 

Tim: And half-truths are outright lies! And the best lies are actually have truths, or partial truths.

 

Joe: Yeah. We’re trying to investigate, to determine the “genre”. I mean, truth is something that in the absolute sense, is something that isn’t even possible, we’re just trying to determine what is the damn “genre”!

 

Is it propaganda? Is it mind control? Or is it history? If it’s history, there’s a very precise scrutiny that it can be placed under, and it can satisfy the criteria of analysis!

 

There should be no prohibition of analysis of what is history!

 

The fact that all these countries have created laws against, you know, questioning the “Holocaust” is an ABSOLUTE assertion that it is propaganda!

 

Because history never has a problem being scrutinised! Propaganda always does!

 

And all we’re trying to do, we say:

 

Look! We’ve got all of these elements that are built into this German maniac atrocity, story-line about their behaviour in World War Two in the “Holocaust”. And all of these details seem to be ahistorical, but they all work in terms of propaganda.”

 

So the question is: What is the genre? And it just, .. To me it’s just self-evident! And particularly when you show all these connections, and just, I mean, CD Jackson is a “propagandist” – that’s what he does!

 

 

 

[69:56]

 

 

 

Tim: In the entire post war network news establishment…

 

Joe: Right!

 

Tim: He slithered out from Office of War Information, OSS, Walter Cronkite’s, Sarnoff, William Paley, …

 

Joe: Herbert Marcuse.

 

Tim: Herbert Marcuse, [laughing] media, entertainer… the whole thing on how we are supposed to understand the world, is seen through their lens, you know…

 

Joe: Yeah!

 

Tim:… And to take it as gospel, is ridiculous! I mean, it’s just, … Think about it for a couple seconds.

 

Joe: Well it’s sort of like saying:

 

Well gee, I mean, Bernays created the Nuremberg Trial, so I guess I should really treat it as objective history, …

 

Tim: Yeah! Well we now know that people were tortured and coerced and, …

 

Joe: Yeah and also, … Well wait! Doesn’t this family just create propaganda? Didn’t they invent the term?

 

Tim: Didn’t he write a book?

 

[“Propaganda”, an influential book written by Edward L. Bernays in 1928, incorporated the literature from social science and psychological manipulation into an examination of the techniques of public communication. Bernays wrote the book in response to the success of some of his earlier works such as “Crystallizing Public Opinion” (1923) and “A Public Relations Counsel” (1927). Propaganda explored the psychology behind manipulating masses and the ability to use symbolic action and propaganda to influence politics, effect social change, and lobby for gender and racial equality. Walter Lippman was Bernays’ unacknowledged American mentor and his work “The Phantom Public” greatly influenced the ideas expressed in “Propaganda” a year later. The work propelled Bernays into media historians’ view of him as the “father of public relations.
Source: https:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propagandation (book) ]

 

 

Joe: I mean, don’t they talk about how like a small group of people can control the ways that everyone understands history? Right?

 

So this in, and of itself, should just raise the red flag!

 

We’re dealing with propagandists! When they wanted to document, right, did they bring in a historian or a fictional filmmaker? I mean the people who created these videos, it’s Billy Wilder, folks!

 

I mean, this is the guy that created the scene with Marilyn Monroe on a street grill with her dress billowing up! This is what the guy does! He creates scenes for emotional effect, he’s not a historian!

 

[Image] Billy Wilder with Marilyn Monroe on the set of The Seven Year Itch.

“Marilyn Monroe mesmerized a crowd of lucky onlookers while her white dress blew suggestively above her knees—and sometimes over her head. It was 1954, and the director Billy Wilder was filming a scene of the film The Seven Year Itch on Lexington Avenue between 52nd and 53rd Street in New York City. In the script, Marilyn Monroe and co-star Tom Ewell exit a movie theater and a breeze from the subway passing below lifts Marilyn’s skirt. Instead of rushing to cover her legs, as any decent woman of that era would have, Marilyn exclaims, “Isn’t it delicious?”” Source: https://www.biography.com/news/marilyn-monroe-seven-year-itch-dress-photos

 

 

He’s not a historian! [laughing] It is not history!

 

Tim: It’s Steven Spielberg, he won the, … He brought us the movie about the “Holocaust”. Also brought us a movie about dinosaurs that are alive.

 

Joe: Yeah! That’s right! [laughing]

 

Tim: So, you know…

 

Joe: So it’s just, we have to flip the bit, you know, and just say:

 

You know what? Too much propaganda! Too little history! We’re going to change direction here, and the citizens are going to, as a group, say: You know what! We want to revisit this whole thing!

 

We want to go back and look at every single detail; and don’t hit us with the idea that, you know, we’re “Holocaust deniers”, we’re not! We just want to know the genre that we’re being subjected to.

 

Tim: Well that term wasn’t used until the seventy’s. I think Martin Gilbert wrote a book called, “The Holocaust”* and then there was the CBS mini-series “Holocaust”.

 

[*Sir Martin Gilbert (25 October 1936 – 3 February 2015) was a jewish-British historian and honorary Fellow of Merton College, University of Oxford. He was the author of eighty-eight books, including works on Winston Churchill, the 20th century, and Jewish history.

Author of “The Holocaust: A History of the Jews of Europe During the Second World War” (1987)]

 

 

[Image] Martin Gilbert and his 1987 book “The Holocaust“. Right — Gilbert being awarded an honorary doctorate at Ben-Gurion University of the Negev in Beersheba, Israel, 2011.

 

 

Joe: Yeah!

 

Tim: Prior to that wasn’t using the historiography of the Second World War. It wasn’t so, … centered around the “Holocaust”.

 

Now it is. Nazis, and jews, and the “Holocaust”. And you know, World War Two was a global conflagration and it meant different things to different people as they experienced it differently. Certainly it was different for the Americans on the Home Front than if you were in Europe, you know, than where it was being fought in Asia. It’s different if you were, … Your experience of the war was different if you were an air-raid victim in Dresden, or if you were an inmate at a concentration camp, or a labor camp, or if you’re on the, you know, a soldier at the Eastern Front. And your idea of who was good or bad differs!

 

I heard an account of some ethnic Georgians, I believe, during this, the 1942 campaign. The Germans, the Wehrmacht, liberated a train that was headed east to Siberia, to the gulag, and they liberated these people and saved their lives from the Russians. So their understanding of who was bad and who was good in that war is very different than maybe a jewish Pole, a Polish jew.

 

Joe: Yeah.

 

Tim: If you were an Indian, and starving to death, because of the British policies, when they were stealing all the food out of Bengal in 1943, to export it to England. And your family starved to death, because of the forced famine at the hands of the British. Your idea of who was good, and who was bad is different in that war. So it’s a very complex event, it isn’t simple.

 

And that should be obviously, that’s, …

 

Joe: Yes, that’s right. And what happens, … To me, it’s like, okay, so the question is how many of these elements have to go into dispute, or question marks. I mean the gas chambers. If you subtract that from the narrative? The lampshade? What about the human experimentation? Right? That seems to have been exactly the foundation of the MK-Ultra in experimentation, right?

 

And then the number of people killed in the camps, what about this the, like the Red Cross’ estimates for one hundred thousand jewish deaths?

 

In other words if the six-million goes away? If you start losing the details, if they start disappearing as historical elements, if they start being exposed as — well it’s just propaganda we’re trying, … How many of these things have to disappear before the “Holocaust” then, doesn’t have the psychological power, that the people who created the propaganda wanted it to have?

 

 

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You know, how many of these elements, I mean, if we really… if people go:

 

Well gee! Bernays created the Nuremberg trial. Is that something you can really trust?

 

I mean, CD Jackson, the guy who set up Bilderberg; and who was, Henry Luce, Skull and Bones, who created the Gordon Wasson fake narrative to set up the “Counterculture”?

 

I mean, you can’t trust CD Jackson, right? And then Ewen Cameron, he’s writing these stories about the German people, as these atrocity creators, and there’s something deranged, — but wait a second, Ewen Cameron is MK-Ultra, human experimentations, that are so vicious, that it’s even hard to talk about them!

 

Tim: Right.

 

Joe: So I guess he’s gone too! Right?

 

Tim: Right.

 

Joe: Well then now, wait a second, what’s left of the propaganda?

 

You see, the propaganda power starts to disappear. You’re still left with the historical details, we’re not denying anything, we are simply going through, and trying to make sense of what has been asserted, and which can be, basically, put: As either false, or as a question mark.

 

And then looking at what’s left, to see, well how much “Political Power” does the propaganda – that tries to come from something that is closer to history – have?

 

Tim: Hmm, hmm.

 

Joe: And you see my point is that it has none!

 

And that’s really what people are afraid of and that’s why they’ve made these laws, you know, so people can’t study it.

 

Tim: Yeah.

 

Joe: And they try to, … they’re constantly trying to reinforce the power of the “Holocaust” with these films and stuff.

 

Because they know it can’t stand any real scrutiny. It’s simple! It’s clear as a bell, to me! It’s just they know it can’t, because they know that if one, or two of these details starts to collapse, and then people go:

 

Well, I’m going to look at another detail.

 

It doesn’t take many, for people to realize, it’s propaganda, it’s not history. And that’s why the shrunken heads, and the lampshade business, I mean, those are very valuable things, those are like the pay requisitions for MK-Ultra.

 

Tim: Yeah, yeah.

 

Joe: They are so obviously fake! And they show that there was an attempt to create propaganda, at the very day that the US arrived arrove [arrived] at the so-called concentration camps, …

 

Tim: Yeah.

 

Joe: The very day! So they had this in mind, the propaganda has been going full-force since the very beginning!

 

Tim: Well to this day the camps are now, you know, the camps are now theme parks.

 

Joe: Yeah!

 

Tim: Auschwitz has a gift shop. [laughing]

 

Joe: It’s insane!

 

Tim: Merchandising! Merchandising, my boy!

 

But, I was talking about this very subject, “scepticism towards the official narrative of the “Holocaust”, and the problems with it”, and someone says:

 

Well, I’ve been to the camps!

 

Joe: [laughing]

 

Tim: I’ve been to a concentration camp, … Well there are camps in the United States, what does that mean? Well it doesn’t mean anything, …

 

Joe: Yeah!

 

Tim: … As it’s now established that they [the Americans at Dachau] did construct fake gas-chambers for people to tour, in the Western camps.

 

Joe: Sure! I mean, what we’re looking at now, is no more real than Schindler’s List!

 

Tim: Yeah, well it’s a movie. Well that’s how most people’s view of the world is and, …

 

Joe: Well, that’s what you get, … They get it from Hollywood, they get it, … Which is just based, … And now Hollywood can be exposed, as just an arm of the Secret Society. People should turn off that crap! You know, I have said over and over again on our show, that you know, just turn off the legacy media, as it’s called, “legacy media”. [chuckling]

 

You know, because it’s not, … It looks like a cesspool! You go:

 

Gee! It’s pornographic, it’s stupid!

 

It’s not a cesspool, it’s a weapon! There is clever intent, in back of it, and when you subject yourself to Schindler’s List, and to some debate about “Holocaust deniers” that’s being held on CNN, you’re just being in a kind of mental grinder, that’s just pushing you in a certain direction.

 

This isn’t how you’re going to get to a clear mind, you know?

 

You have to xxx your mind by realizing that the propaganda is in play here! And then trying to do your own research, to find out what, … which one of the elements is believable.

 

And how many of them have to become, either a question mark, or just patently fake, before you realize that — Gee! I’ve been suffering from the effects of propaganda, like that poor [German] lady you described.

 

Tim: Yeah, yeah. Well Joe, I think… anything else? I think you covered it, everything, Yeah. I think there, …

 

Joe: No, we’re pretty good, …we gave it a pretty good thumping! Yeah, I was happy to have this conversation. I’ve been wanting to talk about this for some time, and I’m glad I was able to talk about it, with you Tim. This is very interesting to me, and, we’ll see how people respond to this.

 

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Tim: Yeah. So, so, I’ll probably be called a “Nazi”.

 

Joe: Me too! But we’ll try to point out well we’re not “Holocaust deniers”. [laughing]

 

Tim: No! I just …

 

Joe: Well, we’re just seekers of the truth! We do what we want to do. And I think that, you know, what, they’ll have a hard time because, it’s so easy to show how propaganda is being created through all of these different individuals, and all these different false elements that they’re putting. That the search for the question about what part of it is propaganda is so obvious and righteous!

 

No one, no one can stand up against that search for very long! It’s just, it’s time to happen, Tim!

 

Tim: Yes. So much of the propaganda, I think your analogy about Donald Duck, is valuable there, because there was a duck, named Donald, and I guess you could call him Donald Duck, but he wasn’t the Donald Duck of Disney that we’re all … not even close to that, and that’s history.

 

Joe: We can’t, .. We can’t, you know. They’ll say:

 

Oh my God! You’re denying the camps existed! You’re denying that jews died in the camps, …

 

Tim: That no one died, no!

 

Joe: Yes, we are trying to find the genre!

 

Tim: Yeah.

 

Joe: What is the intent of the people who are bringing, … who are weaving all of these details into a story, that then becomes our narrative about history?

 

What was the intent of these people? What was the intent of CD Jackson? What’s the intent of Ewen Cameron? What’s the intent of Bernays?

 

Tim: And it could be that the use of Zyklon-B, an insecticide, was there to deal with lice, there for to knock down the typhus problem, as opposed to this idea, [laughing] it was applied to mass extermination of people!

 

Joe: Well you know, if you want to talk about that one aspect. Okay, fine. But I mean, well yeah…

 

Tim: Yeah. Where’s the evidence?

 

Joe: Well let’s go through the evidence. We can actually, … This is great, this is great, because this would be an empirical, … Well, is there enough, … Well first of all: Where are the bodies? Where are the bones? Where are the records of population reduction?

 

And why does the Red Cross have not seen any of this?

 

So the evidence becomes, the videos of the bodies being pushed into, I mean, is that IT?

 

What is that evidence of?

 

Tim: Yeah exactly! What is that?

 

Joe: It doesn’t show the violence, it doesn’t show what led to the event, it just shows a big pile of corpses. I’m sorry!

 

Tim: Skinny, emaciated, the sick jumble, you know. That doesn’t tell us anything! Germany is full of people like that! It’s called a “famine” — that’s one thing war creates is famine, especially when everything, … You’ve been bombed back to the Stone Age!

 

Joe: Yeah, and so you don’t need to have many of these elements. And that’s like with the gassing thing! And I hadn’t really done a lot of work on it, but I did some work this week trying to make some sense out of it. It’s completely absurd! I just, I just mean:

 

THE CASE THAT IT IS CLEAR HISTORY IS ABSURD!

 

Right! There just is not, CLEAR EVIDENCE, that well, we can absolutely be sure that six-million jews were put into gas, … Ah no! Sorry!

 

You know, where are the bones first of all? So, you know, well they were incinerated. Where? How? What rate?

 

Tim: With what fuel?

 

Joe: Yeah, and where is the fuel to do this? And so, the thing is that, like I say, what we’re dealing here is propaganda, not history!

 

Tim: Hmm, … Okay Joe, I’ll let you go.

 

Joe: Fine brother! Well thank you so much! We’ll get them next week, okay?

 

Tim: Next week! Take it easy. Enjoy your weekend. Bye, bye.

 

Joe: You too, bye!

 

 

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[Ryan Dawson of the Anti-NeoCon Report hosts a long (nearly 4 hours) and often heated debate between Eric Hunt and Fritz Berg on what happened to all the “missing” jews during the alleged “Holocaust” of WWII.

Eric Hunt, a producer of revisionist videos, in an unexpected change of conviction has recently revised his own revisionist views and now believes that in fact, jews and others were mass murdered in gas chambers and also shot in large numbers in the East.

Fritz Berg strongly supports the revisionist position that no homicidal gassings occurred what-so-ever and that any shootings of jews in the East were legitimate actions taken against partisans and their supporters — KATANA.]

 

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Published on Feb 26, 2017

 

 

 

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Ryan: What I thought was going to be a one hour debate, or planned, ended up being about three and a half hours.

OK, this is Ryan Dawson of ANC Report, the Anti Neo-con Report. We’re usually covering the antiwar thing, the anti neo-con material. We often get into “hidden history” and sometimes conspiracy, … Not that wacky Jonestown kind. But today’s topic is one of the more taboo, if not the most taboo topic on the Interwebs, and that’s the “Holocaust“. There’s a lot of exaggerations in both directions about the “Holocaust“. Over exaggerating it, maybe under exaggerating it.

And we have two revisionists on today, one revisionist is Eric Hunt who’s been on the program before. He has recanted some of his views and he will be explaining that. And here to debate him is Fritz Berg, or Friedrich Paul Berg of the website, Nazi Gassings dot com. Also Eric Hunt’s web site, Questioning the Holocaust dot com. And you can see his long, well recanting on that, as well as other information.

So gentleman, I’m going to give you guys the floor. Hopefully I won’t have to jump in too much. I do want to make it clear to everyone that the point of this is to get at the truth where this is never supposed to be something dogmatic and I hope people will refrain from accusations, saying somebody is anti German, or anti-jewish. The idea here is just to get at the truth of the matter, based on the best evidence available.

So Eric, I will start with you, because you were a revisionists who is now revised your revisions and you’re catching some flak for that. So I’ll let you explain your position and then I’ll let Fritz respond.

 

Eric: All right, thanks. First up I’d like to thank Fritz Berg for agreeing to debate. Fritz has never been afraid to defend his views and has debated Roberto Muehlenkamp, who accepts the garssing claims and has repeatedly asked to debate revisionist Fred Leuchter. Surprisingly it’s the revisionists like Leuchter, dodging the debate, not those defending the claims of mass gassing and shooting such as Muehlenkamp. I recommend for listeners to listen to the Berg-Muehlenkamp debates. It is my opinion Mr Muehlenkamp presents entirely logical arguments and overwhelming evidence in favor of mass gassings having occurred. We will likely not be repeating many of the same arguments from those debates here today.

 

Fritz has and is operating in the supposed spirit of the revisionists who claim to desire open debate on the Holocaust and Fritz should be commended. It’s very telling that no other top revisionist scholars, as they claim, has so far agreed to debate me upon publishing my controversial findings in an article titled “The End Of The Line” available to read at: Questioning the holocaust dot com. This exposes the hypocrisy of those claiming they simply desire open debate on the subject. I put forward that this clique of SS mass murder deniers instead want to spread their extreme, indefensible, illogical denialist falsehoods in their safe little echo chambers. I’ve determined the behavior of this community is more consistent with a religious cult like the Jonestown cult you mentioned in your opening, than something claiming to be related to science. And I’m hoping to tell people listening not to drink the Kool-Aid.

 

For those who claim to oppose censorship, both Fritz and I have been banned from the Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust forums. I have determined even before coming to this conclusion that [that forum] is paradoxically the most closed forum which claims to debate the “Holocaust“. And I have heard Fritz say the same throughout the years. I want to make it clear I’m not here to totally put down, or insult revisionists. One reason revisionists haven’t been debated more often is, because the “Holocaust Industry”, as Norman Finkelstein calls them, really does engage in many hoaxes. “Mini”, I meant to say, mini hoaxes, small hoaxes, propaganda, exaggeration and willingly spreading falsehoods. The blind believers repeatedly defend indefensible and scientifically impossible eyewitness accounts. Often these accounts are forced upon the American public, especially on naive schoolchildren.

 

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[Image] An illustration of one of Elie Weisel’s sadistic tall tales as described in his mostly fictional book, “Night“.

 

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I’d like to talk briefly about some of the things I’ve done and what I stand behind. Elie Weisel’s fictional tale of walking to the edge of a flaming pit of fire at the entrance of Auschwitz Birkenau, where dump trucks full of babies were dumped alive for no reason other than dramatic effect, during that titular night, is forced upon naive school children.

 

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These children don’t know the flaming pit never existed, as all eyewitnesses confirm, including Weisel’s own sister. The fire and atrocity invention is just a lame literary device by a Jewish poet to represent entering into the hell of Auschwitz.

 

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My exposé on Steven Spielberg’s 1999 Academy Award winning “Holocaust” documentary, “The Last Days” is one for the ages, which I’m very proud of. To investigate in particular that film star survivor, Irene Zisblatt’s false testimony, I did what any skeptical researcher should do. I investigated her claims, bought her book and read it. I found the book to be almost total fiction and saw ways to prove it. I followed the evidence trail to Stanford University to watch her video testimony, recorded for Steven Spielberg’s Survivors of the Showa a Visual History Foundation. In this video testimony Zisblatt seems to invent in real time new fake atrocity stories, one after the other. Zisblatt claims she was selected to become a lampshade, because of her smooth skin! She claims the Nazis tried to change the color of her eyes. Zisblatt claims that Dr Mengele removed her Auschwitz tattoo in excruciating experiments. Despite being on a list of Jews quickly transited through Auschwitz to other labor camps, never given a tattoo. Zisblatt claims to have escaped from inside Auschwitz Birkenau Crematoria III gas chamber. She claims a boy then threw her over an electrified barbed wire fence, naked, onto a train where she escaped. That train would have been at least one hundred feet away from the fence.

 

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Zisblatt’s calling card claim of repeatedly defecating and swallowing diamonds for a year and a half pales in comparison to her other outrageous lies! Steven Spielberg produced other falsehoods in that Oscar winning documentary, including featuring a discredited African American soldier who already falsely claimed to have liberated Dachau in a previous propaganda film, “Liberators”, which was withdrawn from public airing, as a hoax. As a result of sharing Zisblatt’s testimony to the world, rather than have the evidence looked at in a major examination of this outrageous false testimony, shown to children and even the US Congress, I was instead banned from Stanford University libraries!

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THE succession of events which have led to the almost total loss of British prestige in the sight of the world, the failure in the lamentable Ethiopian affair, Britain’s recognition of Bolshevism in Russia and Spain, and mistaken policy in India, Palestine, Egypt and elsewhere, make it imperative for every Briton to enquire into the causes of the rise and fall of the British Empire.

Those words “British Empire” have swelled the hearts of many Britons with patriotism, loyalty and devotion. Patriotic idealists believed that the term embodied the aspirations of a great people to spread the greatness of their acquired civilisation over the uttermost ends of the earth. To them, possessions, colonies, dominions meant the extension of that beneficent power.

For the sake of implanting or defending the reverenced flag in remote places, they cheerfully and nobly shed their blood and sacrificed their lives. And the British Empire, emerging from the small Kingdom of Great Britain, was born, developed and prospered. Eventually, the British flag waved proudly over islands and continents in all parts of the hemispheres; it crossed seas and oceans, commanded respect and even fear.

 

 

Mercantilism.

Britain ruled the waves and Britain was the head of a mighty Empire. School children learned to love and reverence its name; British youths worked for its development and dreamed of it in terms of growth and defence while the population as a whole believed that the British Empire meant all the unexpressed national idealism they carried in their hearts.

How deep must be the sorrow, how keen the shame of such men and women whose sad fate it is to witness the rapid decline of their once mighty country.

Few were those who knew that apart from the idealistic there was yet another aspect of the British Empire, namely that of mercantilism.

That side of it does not necessarily inspire national pride, perhaps for the very reason that it does not fall under what patriots understand as national. Present day British mercantilism is international, It has lived and thrived on British blood, work, resources and skill, but it is not British in essence.

 

 

Hanseatic Monopolists.

Trade and commerce as understood by the British were based on principles of trust, fair play and honest dealings. An Englishman’s word was his bond. It is this inherent straightforwardness which caused the English merchants of the middle ages and later centuries to become the victims of Jews and wily foreign traders of the Hanseatic League*. It also stands at the base of the further exploitations practised upon them by Jews for the realisation of their Messianic ideal of World Domination.

The rise of the British Empire is clearly linked to this Jewish Messianic ideal, bearing to-day the name of Zionism, which aims at universal economic and financial control to be followed by political power in every nation.

A short retrospect will make the statement clear.

Throughout the ages, they have had among many devouring ambitions two specific ones, viz., control of trade and commerce, and also that of bullion; in present day parlance it signifies control of national raw materials, of imports and exports, of price-fixing and of precious metals as also of all channels of distribution.

 

*[A former economic and defensive confederation of free towns in northern Germany and neighboring areas. Traditionally dated to a protective alliance formed by Lübeck and Hamburg in 1241, it reached the height of its power in the 1300s and held its last official assembly in 1669.]

 

Holland Supplants Spain.

The gratification of such grandiose ambitions entailed penetration into all countries productive of supplies as well as the control of means of transportation by land and sea. Penetration was to be effected by means of conquest, Nations were therefore lured, in turn, into under-taking adventurous campaigns to distant countries and succumbed to promises of glory and prosperity.

Such is the history of the Spanish and Portuguese World Empires. Spanish and Portuguese sailors and soldiers fought for the possession of lands where Jews later implanted their trade.

Thus did Portugal have the monopoly of Oriental trade from 1500 to 1600.

When the arrogance of Jews who, along with wealth, had gained political power in the Iberian peninsula became unbearable, and when their undermining of the Christian faith and traditions of those two countries led to the Inquisition and their subsequent expulsion, the Netherlands, having an efficient Navy, were elected to replace the Portuguese. The Dutch were easily inflamed with the idea of creating a great Netherland Empire.

Just as the Spaniards and Portuguese had done, they supplied soldiers, sailors and ships between 1603 and 1640; they drove out the Portuguese from alI their positions at Goa, in the East Indies, Ceylon and Java

Jewish trade went on unhampered under the new nominal owners, but it was diverted to Amsterdam and Antwerp.

 

 

Cromwell Re-admits Jews.

Just as the Spaniards and Portuguese had done before them, the Dutch paid with their work, skill and blood for their supremacy as a maritime power in the 17th century.

The development of England’s sea power and spirit of enterprise under Queen Elizabeth, the foundation of the Company of “the Governor and Merchants of London trading in the East Indies” in 1600 coincided with the Dutch expansion and made Britain loom as a possible formidable rival. As Jews were not then openly admitted into England it meant that the independent British trade, if allowed to develop unchecked might shatter Jewish monopoly.

Ceaseless efforts were therefore made to obtain the repeal of the laws of expulsion* and, as is known, they were crowned with success when Cromwell granted the petition for their return, presented to him by Manasseh ben Israel in 1655. This same “Protector” of Jews remained insensible to the anger displayed by English merchants when they learned of his concessions to the “returning” aliens.

 *[In 1290, King Edward I issued an edict expelling all Jews from England. The expulsion edict remained in force for the rest of the Middle Ages. Oliver Cromwell, in exchange for finance, permitted Jews to return to England in 1657, over 360 years after their banishment by Edward I.]

 

William of Orange.

The importance of Britain to the schemers for a World Empire can be measured by the fact that two Jews, Ferdinand Carvajal, of London, and Isaac Suasso, of Amsterdam, financed the invasion of England by William of Orange (William III — November 1650 – 8 March 1702), Suasso alone contributing the sum of 2,000,000 florins for this undertaking (1689).

The Dutch not having been found by the Jews as tractable as had been anticipated, their doom was sealed; and in the secret councils of the Elders of Zion of those days, Britain was elected to replace the Netherlands.

The Britons of that period thought only in terms of “colonies” and set out to conquer. In course of time, they treated the Dutch as the latter had treated the Portuguese; constant battles raged between the two until Dutch supremacy received its death-blow in 1758 at the battle of Chinsura*. From 1781 to 1811, England wrested from Holland all her colonies.

Meanwhile while Dutch and British blood flowed freely, Jewish trade went on unshaken; it increased and prospered.

 *[The Battle of Chinsurah (also known as the Battle of Biderra) took place near Chinsurah, India on 25 November 1759 during the Seven Years’ War between a force of British troops mainly of the British East India Company and a force of the Dutch East India Company which had been invited by the Nawab of Bengal Mir Jafar to help him eject the British and establish themselves as the leading commercial company in Bengal. Despite Britain and the Dutch Republic not formally being at war the Dutch advanced up the Hooghly River. They met a mixed force of British and local troops at Chinsurah, just outside Calcutta. The British under Colonel Francis Forde defeated the Dutch, forcing them to withdraw. The British engaged and defeated the ships the Dutch used to deliver the troops in a separate naval battle on 24 November.]

France Debarred.

The financial Jewish power had been transferred from Amsterdam to London under William III (of Orange) and the chief financiers there were the Sephardim Jews, the Mendez da Costas, Abudientes, Salvadors, Lopezes, Fonsecas and Seixas — all Marranos*.

On no account was France to be allowed to develop an Empire and become an independent rival, so England was used to wrest from her her Colonies in India, America, West Indies, Canada.

The more Britain expanded, the greater grew the Jewish power and control in the economic and financial realm.

A Kaleidoscopic look at the main events of British history from the early part of the 17th century will show the rapid expansion of Britain and her changing political control passing from her own hands into those of men alien to her faith, race and nation.

At home, civil strife leads to the overthrow of monarchy true to the traditions of Edward I and is replaced by the Protectorate of Cromwell, tool of the Jews.

 *[Marrano: Spanish or Portuguese Jew of the late Middle Ages who was converted to Christianity, especially one forcibly converted but secretly adhering to Judaism. (From Spanish, literally: pig, with reference to the Jewish prohibition against eating pig meat).]

 

Cost of Zionism.

Abroad conquest and emigration go side by side to extend British influence alongside with the growth of a Colonial Empire. Conquest is effected by ceaseless warfare on sea and land. against Spain from 1656 on, against the Dutch until 1757, against the French.

India is gained by a succession of wars: Three Burmese Wars, 1823, 1882, 1885; War against the Mohammedan rulers of Sind; two Sikh Wars, l845, 1848; two Afghan Wars, 1838, 1878; Chinese War in 1856.

The British go through the horrors of the Black Hole of Calcutta and of the Indian Mutiny of 1857 to defend the rights of the East India Company.

In the New World, they colonise America and behind them follows Jewish trade and slave traffic.

They wrest Canada from the French, all at the point of the sword and bayonet.

In Europe, they fight a succession of wars against different nations and secure more and more power in the Mediterranean after the Napoleonic Wars, the Crimean and Russian- Turkish Wars.

 

 

Traders’ Profits.

The laurels of victory gained by British bravery and valour cheer the hearts of the nation. Streams of British blood have flowed, countless British lives have been sacrificed but;

meanwhile Jewish coffers get fuller and fuller, full to overflowing; the Bank of England is their Counting-house and the British carry to and fro the precious bullion acquired and stored by Jews...

After the Napoleonic Wars England has laid all her possession s at the feet of Nathan Rothschild.

Henceforth, Britain will do the bidding of her real masters; she has become the tool of the schemers against all she holds dear, namely, her faith, her patriotism, traditions, civilisation. She grants the “returned” aliens equality of civil rights; they may and do become mayors over Christian population, and within a short time Britain is ruled by a Jewish Prime Minister, Disraeli, first and foremost a Jew and the flunkey of the powerful Rothschild financiers.

One of the consequences of this disastrous political mistake is the transformation of the national attitude of Great Britain and her colonies into that of the British Empire. Disraeli who inspired it knew what he was scheming for, the British people did not. But with him, Zionism is carried up to the very heights of the British Throne, a Zionist World Empire is on the high road to realisation.

 

 

Role or Disraeli.

Under Disraeli, and inspired by him as revealed in his works, there begins loud agitation for the return of Palestine to the Jews. That gateway between the East and West must be secured and the Mediterranean become a British possession to ensure the security of of Jewish trade. Gradually, Zionism becomes the pivot of British rule.

Egypt is an impediment; Egypt must be submitted. More British blood is shed at Tel-el-Kebir 1882; Hasti, Khartoum 1885, Handub 1888, Toski 1889, Afafit 1891; in the Indian Operations 1896 to 1900, at the Battle of Omdurman.

British blood it is which must swamp the “Cairo to the Cape road,” And what of the South African War to secure gold and diamond fields for the Jews and for them alone! Once more British and Dutch blood drench the battlefields.

In the wake of British advance everywhere:

Jewish trade has found new fields and gained security, it has grasped production at its source and started the era of trusts and monopolies

 

 

A Zionist Empire.

At home, meanwhile, Jewish power gets steadily stronger, but drunk with the notion of the mighty British Empire, Britons see only the surface; they still believe that they are ruled by their own Monarch and elected men, and they fail to grasp the ghastly truth… The Great World War even fails to open their eyes. On the battlefields of France, and afterwards in Ireland the best and most virile elements of Britain perish in order that for their British Empire which they die to defend there should be substituted the Zionist Empire. Henceforth, the history of Great Britain becomes that of Zionism.

The setting up of what Britons believed was the British Empire has cost much blood. The time has come to open up the National Ledger and reckon the actual costs of Zionism and the gains of Britain.

 

 

Price Britain Pays.

For a period of over three hundred years, Britons set up a glorious record of bravery and determination and an unexcelled example of remarkable colonisation work. Against this magnificent record comes the losses inflicted on British national honour evidenced by her Jew inspired policy in South Africa, in her dealings with the Arabs to whom the Balfour Declaration is a striking example of broken faith, the betrayal of Russia her loyal ally into the hands of Jews, her stifling of all British ideals at the Jewish Peace Conference and participation in the League of Nations, seat of the Zionist World Super-Government. As a natural sequence has come the Government’s shameful official recognition of Bolshevism in Russia and Spain.

Against a record of glorious prestige won and recognised by the whole world must be set up the fact of having been made the laughing stock of all nations when mighty Britain being now but one of the many pawns on the Zionist chess-board of the League of Nations, supinely endured the moral defeats which Italy imposed upon her during and since the Abyssinian campaign.

 

 

Material Losses.

And what of the material gains which Manasseh ben Israel made glitter in his letter to Cromwell? Materially England has reaped no benefit; her millions of unemployed are there to proclaim this sad fact. Economically her Zionist rulers have fettered the initiative of her people and through the Zionist P.E.P. (Political Economic Planning) programme of the Manchester School of Zionists, headed by the Rothschilds, Chaim Weizmann and Israel Moses Sieff and Co., Britons are being steadily deprived of liberty, property, freedom of initiative and are burdened with intolerable taxation. British industries and agriculture have been and are being systematically destroyed by Socialism, Communism and Bolshevism, those offsprings of Zionism.

But meanwhile, Jewish trade and prosperity have suffered no set-back; they are thriving on international loans and the control of huge monopolies.

 

 

Spiritual Losses.

Spiritually, International Freemasonry, the main channel of Jewish influence and of which English Grand Lodge is as much a branch as the Continental Grand Orient and Scottish Rite Masonry, has laid low the Christian Church and given much scope to Kabbalistic Theosophy, gradually destroying the spiritual Christian-Aryan heritage of Britons. No asset appears in the National Ledger to offset this great loss.

The picture is one of gloom. The rewards and gains which colonizing Britain might have expected to enjoy after her sacrifices and labours among peoples to whom she brought the benefits of her civilising influence, whose standard of living, moral and physical she raised, for whom she built hospitals, instituted educational and industrial centres, carried out costly schemes of irrigation and transportation, are all to be ruthlessly snatched from her. She is not to be allowed to enjoy the fruits of her sacrifices any more than were Spain, Portugal and the Netherlands.

 

 

Italy Supplants Britain.

The secret Jewish powers that she unwittingly served have used their socialist and communistic propaganda to incite the peoples of Egypt and India to revolt against her and decreed that Italy is to supplant her in the Mediterranean.

Her Navy and her Man-power have been used to the limit by the international traders and exploiters of the world-other navies have grown powerful in this and the other hemisphere; they are coming into service and will gradually be pressed forward to occupy first place whilst Britain recedes and recedes….

In Europe power is to be partly diverted from London to Rome. To the British Empire must succeed the Roman or Italian Empire. The remaining part of the power goes to Moscow, Tokyo, New York.

 

 

Honest Merchants’ Warning.

Too late Britain is learning that not she was the ruler of the League of Nations, but the government which she mistook for her own since the days of Disraeli. And as an echo bridging the distance of centuries comes the complaint of those English merchants, true Britons who in 1684, soon after the Jewish invasion of England under Cromwell, in a case connected with the East Indies Company, said,

Those Jews are aliens, infidels and perpetual enemies of the British Crown.

 

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About the Author

 

Leslie Fry also L. Fry was the pen-name for Louise A. Chandor (1882 – 1970). She is often referred to by her married name Paquita de Shishmareff . Fry is primarily known for her authorship of Waters Flowing Eastward, a book which supports the authenticity of The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion.

A child of extraordinary mental capacity, Leslie Fry was educated in French convents and British private schools. She married a member of the Russian aristocratic Shishmarev (Shishmareff) family who was a man of rank in the Czar’s Army. When the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917 was at hand in Russia, Fry’s husband sent her with their two sons (along with the family fortune) abroad living in Great Britain, Canada, and the United States. Shortly after Leslie and her sons left Russia her husband was murdered by the Bolsheviks.

Source: http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Leslie_Fry

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Holocaust High Priest

 

Elie Wiesel, “Night,” the Memory Cult

 

and the Rise of Revisionism

 

 Holocaust High Priest - Cover

 

By Warren B. Routledge

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First unauthorized biography of Elie Wiesel: Holocaust High Priest

 

 

Castle Hill Publishers proudly announce the publication of the first ever unauthorized biography of Elie Wiesel. It shines the light of truth on this mythomaniac who helped transforming the word “Holocaust” into a brand name:

Holocaust High Priest

Elie Wiesel, Night, the Memory Cult, and the Rise of Revisionism

 

Prof. Dr. Warren B. Routledge’s Holocaust High Priest: Elie Wiesel, Night, the Memory Cult, and the Rise of Revisionism, with a foreword by Germar Rudolf. The world’s first unauthorized biography of Elie Wiesel shines the light of truth on this mythomaniac who has transformed the word “Holocaust” into the brand name of the world’s greatest hoax. Here, both Wiesel’s personal deceits and the whole myth of “the six million” are laid bare for the reader’s perusal. It shows how Zionist control of the U.S. Government as well as the nation’s media and academic apparatus has allowed Wiesel and his fellow extremists to force a string of U.S. presidents to genuflect before this imposter as symbolic acts of subordination to World Jewry, while simultaneously forcing U.S. school children to submit to Holocaust brainwashing by their teachers…

Holocaust High Priest weaves together five compelling and interrelated narratives. The book’s main concern is to present the world’s first unauthorized biography of Elie Wiesel. It shines the light of truth on the mythomaniac who, in the 1970s, transformed the word “Holocaust” and made it the brand name of the world’s greatest hoax:

The unfounded claim by an extremist segment of World Jewry to the effect that the German government’s wartime policy of territorial transfer of Europe’s Jews out of the Reich was in actuality an “extermination program.”

In these pages, both Wiesel’s personal deceits and the whole myth of “the six million” are mercilessly exposed and laid bare for the reader’s perusal. Unfortunately, Zionist control of the U.S. Government as well as the nation’s media and academic apparatus has allowed Wiesel and his fellow extremists to force a string of U.S. presidents to genuflect before this imposter as symbolic acts of subordination to World Jewry, while simultaneously forcing U.S. school children to submit to Holocaust brainwashing by their teachers.

The second strand involves close readings of several of Wiesel’s published texts, with emphasis on his alleged “autobiography,” the novel Night. The author demonstrates Wiesel’s appalling ignorance of both the physical details and layouts of the Auschwitz and Buchenwald camps, and this ignorance also extends to German administrative protocols and procedures. Amazingly, the novel’s chronology of the events said to have “really happened” in the author’s life is also disjointed, confusing and internally contradictory. The author also shows the role played by the meme of “retroactive continuity” in the telling of the Holocaust story.

The third strand involves an historical account of the rise of Holocaust revisionism mainly in the U.S. and France in response to the many obvious lies contained in the Jewish Holocaust narrative. From the sudden appearance of the revisionist work of Profs. Butz and Faurisson in the 1970s, through the Zündel trials of the 1980s, to the work of contemporary revisionists like Bradley R. Smith, Germar Rudolf, Carlo Mattogno, Thomas Kues and others today, this study shows, through the words of the Holocaustian extremists themselves, how effective the revisionists have been in demolishing their lies.

The fourth strand shows how certain ambitious and unscrupulous U.S. Catholic intellectuals have hitched a ride on the Holocaust bandwagon as a means of advancing their careers. Ritual denunciation of the alleged “silence” of Pope Pius XII is unfortunately very much a part of this behavior.

Finally, the fifth strand concerns all those U.S. Jews, young and old, who have been turned off by one or another aspect of the Holocaust story and its use within the U.S. Jewish community, but who never criticize it openly for non-Jewish ears. As for younger U.S. Jews, Rabbi Jacob Neusner has been pointing out for years that it has not kept them Jewish. What he calls the “Holocaust and Redemption” cult within U.S. Jewry has contributed to a pronounced abandonment of Jewish identity through intermarriage with non-Jews at percentages never before seen or even imagined.

 

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The Liberation of the Camps:

 

Facts vs. Lies

 

The Journal of Historical Review,

 

July-August 1995 (Vol. 15, no. 4)

 

By Theodore J. O’Keefe

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[Image] American troops guarding the main entrance to Dachau just after liberation, 1945

 

Earlier this year [1995] countless newspaper and magazine feature articles and special television broadcasts recalled the liberation 50 years ago by American, British and Soviet troops of German concentration camps. As the following essay shows, many of these retrospective articles and reports grossly distort reality. 

 

Nothing has been more effective in establishing the authenticity of the Holocaust story in the minds of Americans than the terrible scenes US troops discovered when they entered German concentration camps at the close of World War II.

 

Liberation of the Camps - Display shows two shrunken heads

[Image] Display shows two shrunken heads [taken from a museum], pieces of tattooed skin and lamp [actually made from goat skin]

 

At Dachau, Buchenwald, Dora, Mauthausen, and other work and detention camps, horrified US infantrymen encountered heaps of dead and dying inmates, emaciated and diseased. Survivors told them hair-raising stories of torture and slaughter, and backed up their claims by showing the GIs crematory ovens, alleged execution gas chambers, supposed implements of torture, and even shrunken heads and lampshades, gloves, and handbags purportedly made from skin flayed from dead inmates.

 

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[Add. Image] Map of concentration camps in US/Brit/French post-war zones.

 

The Liberation of the Camps - Map of camps Soviet zone NEW

[Add. Image] Map of concentration camps in Soviet post-war zone.

 

US government authorities, mindful that many Americans who remembered the atrocity stories fed them during World War I still doubted the Allied propaganda directed against the Hitler regime, resolved to “document” what the GIs had found in the camps. Prominent newsmen and politicians were flown in to see the harrowing evidence, while the US Army Signal Corps filmed and photographed the scenes for posterity. Famous journalist Edward R. Murrow reported, in tones of horror, but no longer of disbelief, what he had been told and shown, and Dachau and Buchenwald were branded on the hearts and minds of the American populace as names of infamy unmatched in the sad and bloody history of this planet. [20]

 

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