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Andrew Anglin


Somalian Refugee Nightmare


& Trump’s Fix


Published on Dec 2, 2016




Andrew Anglin – Somalian Refugee Nightmare & Trump’s Fix



December 2, 2016


Andrew Anglin is the founder of The Daily Stormer and has written countless articles on race realism, nationalism, Jewish influence, and social degeneracy.
We begin by discussing the recent terrorist attack at Ohio State University. Since Andrew hails from Ohio, he’s able to offer us a firsthand perspective on the – and growing – Somali community in his home state. We learn that the Somalian refugees are overwhelmingly unemployed; many, though, are involved in illegal activities, such as heroin trafficking. Unlike other immigrant groups, such as Mexicans or Indians, Somalians aren’t brought in by the elite as a cheap labor force. In light of this, we ponder why our ruling class is intent on importing large numbers of people who are, biologically and culturally, very different from us. This leads to a discussion on the issue of Muslim rape gangs in Europe, and how decades of Jewish control of newspapers have pushed a narrative that have convinced White people that it is moral to commit racial and cultural suicide.


The members’ hour [Part 2] begins with a consideration of Jill Stein’s recent push for a vote recount in Michigan. We laugh at the absurdity of the situation, and Andrew reminds us that the recount will ultimately prove meaningless. Switching gears, we discuss the fact that some people still believe Trump is a Jewish puppet; Andrew half-jokingly suggests that the notion of Trump being part of a Jewish conspiracy is itself a conspiracy benefiting Jewish interests.


While on the subject, we take a critical look at Trump’s relationship to the Jewish community. Andrew stresses the fact that, regardless of how much praise Trump lavishes on Israel, his policies stand in opposition to the globalist machinations of worldwide ZOG. The members’ hour also includes Andrew’s thoughts on the recent NPI controversy.





Part 1




Henrik Pamlgren: Welcome ladies and gentlemen, I’m Henrik Pamlgren. This is Red Ice Radio. We are very glad to have you here today. Dot TV is the website. Please check it out for more radio shows, videos and our TV show and of course our busy news section, as well.


Well today with us is Andrew Anglin from the Daily Stormer. I don’t think he needs an introduction, frankly. I think both friend and foe do know him by now. A very effective journalist that covers the kind of stuff that very few others do. At least in the humorous, in the way that he does it. And, of course, there is a lot that we have on the plate today in terms of discussions to go into, from Trump, to the Alt-Right, to the recent MPI controversy. But also, of course, the attack on Ohio State University, the people there. By the, I mean the feral Somalis population up there. And do believe me I know the situation. We have them in Sweden too. I think you guys recall the Australian, Sixty Minutes crew that were in the suburbs outside of Stockholm to cover how great immigration was. They were actually attacked primarily by Somalis. So it is, for sure, a problem. But Andrew. Welcome to the show. Good to finally actually have a dedicated radio show with you. We have you, of course, on our TV show before, but we haven’t had a chance, I guess, to sit down and spend two segments together, so thank you for coming on.


Andrew Anglin: I’m very happy to be here Henrik. I told you when you sent me an e-mail inviting me, I said I’ve been waiting years for this! [Henrik laughing] So I’m very, very happy to be here!


Henrik: Sure! Of course, you know, it’s great, of course! You were on Lana’s show before and we had you on the TV show and this seems like a perfect time, considering what happening, in Ohio. You know, your home state, to actually address this issue.


Andrew: Yes.


Henrik: I haven’t, … Frankly I haven’t, actually, embarrassingly have to say, I’ve been so busy both after NPI and all the things that we have upcoming, with live streams and live shows, that I have not actually been able to follow up on the Ohio situation. How, … Can you break this down for, I guess, the audience and me actually. Quickly in terms of what actually happened?


Andrew: Yeah, it was an eighteen year old Somalian refugee and he was attending OSU and drove his car into a crowd and then got out and started stabbing people with a butcher knife, and then he was shot by a White police officer. No one died. So, a total of ten people were injured. I think most of them were stabbed. The car, the driving, people kind of moved out of the way, when he drove his car into them. So, most of people who were injured were stabbed. And he, yeah, I mean, this is what these people do. He had been, interesting enough, he had been profiled in a, in a OSU, I think it was Lantern, which is the official OSU student journal, student newspaper, talking about, you know, how he was a good refugee and he was integrating and he was, you know, cooperating with the system, assimilating. And he was complaining though, about that there weren’t enough prayer rooms, OK?


And when I first saw this, I could, I’m around these Somalians, you know. This is my city and we have, they won’t tell you how many there are. But there are probably a 100,000. I mean they give you these different statistics. And, you know, a few years ago they came out and said there was like 50 something thousand, but I think there’s a lot more than that. I mean, these people breed like rats! And I think that, you know, they play these games with statistics, where it’s like well, some of them are not actually refugees anymore, because we gave them citizenship. Or, you know, …


Henrik: Yeah, word play, stupid, …


Andrew: Yeah, you know, “mathemagics”. But they, these people are everywhere. So I’m aware of the, you know, the behavior patterns of these people. And they like an extremely low IQ. Like lower than even the new norms for mentally retarded. Like they have about a 60 to 65 average IQ. So, I mean these are the lowest IQ group in the world, besides, the Australian aboriginals. I mean these are not even like normal negroes. So when I saw this, … When I saw this attack, I said he probably just got the idea in his head and just did it right then! You know, just went and did it, because like, I’m just going to do this right now!


But, it turns out he did post something on Facebook, but, before he did it. But, I mean, the way it’s written on Facebook, it looks like it was done on a phone. I think, probably he made the decision to do this without any, you know, prior, at least not more than an hour, or so, prior thought to it. You know, I mean it’s just like any of these people that can just blow at any time. And it’s surprising that it doesn’t happen more often.




Henrik: Yeah, it’s amazing. I think average IQ just looking at peripheral fast search here, Somalis 68! And I think, what is the retardations like, 50 to 55? It depends on what level, of course, but actually it goes up even up to 70, I believe, mild mental retardation. Couple that, of course, with, you know, some of these populations in northern United States, lots of Scandinavians there and stuff, it’s usually around, … I don’t know, 100 maybe, something like that, … Very difficult for these people to integrate into our kind of society.


Andrew: No and they don’t attempt to. I mean there’s like, … Of the first generation refugees, … they were like, … they came over as adults, like 7% of them had jobs. This is statistic from a couple of years ago. You know, I’ve studied this before, I was kind of looking into it recently. I was going to write a big article about Somalians in my city and, you know, just my experience with these people, but they’ve taken over entire areas and they just create Somalia inside of these ghettos that they create. and they’ve taken neighborhoods, you know, they first started coming in the mid 90s.


I was born in 1984 so, when I was, you know, pretty small boy they started coming, they allegedly had a civil war. I mean, you know, I say allegedly, it’s like that these people are always having these tribal wars and so on. But they used it as an excuse to just flood us with these people. The governor at the time was getting tax breaks for bringing these refugees in, Federal money rather, for bringing these refugees in and settling them in Ohio. Mainly in Columbus, which is my hometown and, … yeah, … So they took over entire — I mean you can just, now you can look at a map of the city and say well this is Somalian territory! Because nobody, nobody can live near them, even the local, … I don’t know what you’d call them, “indigenous negroes” cannot live with these people. And they’re the ones who have to live the closest to them and they can’t get along with them at all. They hate them.


I don’t know if people, you know, I mean you do from Sweden, they go to Sweden, most people in the US probably are not aware — unless they are from Columbus, Ohio, or from some place in Minnesota — of what these Somalians are. They’re not like normal blacks, they have a bulb shaped head that looks like a gray alien. [both laughing] I mean it’s a really weird face they have, it’s like a triangle. And, you know, they have a completely different behavior pattern. I mean actually most of the people that come over from Africa, if they’re from Sierra Leone, or something, these people are not, … they don’t act like American blacks. They’re not, you know, super violent. I mean they’re stupid and they live on welfare and so on, but they’re not so bad as the American blacks.


But these Somalians are much worse! And they drive cars, … I mean, I don’t know how they are allowed to drive cars, but they just drive them and crash them. One time, you know, family members, there were two crashes where a Somalian was responsible, in my family, within like a month and a half period. You know, these Somalians will just slam straight into you! And then, I mean, … they don’t even try to drive correctly. And I mean, you have to run into them at gas stations, you know… And they’re just horrible these people. They make this noise. Their language is like some kind of, … I guess it’s a little bit influenced by Arabic, but it’s like a totally tribal language. I don’t think most of them can read it, but when you go to the BMV they have Somalian language. In all government buildings, I think now, in Columbus. They have Somalian language written on signs.


Henrik: Hm! Amazing! I remember, actually just a quick anecdote about this. Actually, many years ago I was kind of interning at this kind of a government program to try to learn foreigners coming to Sweden, have them learn Swedish, right? So I actually, I handled the computer class for some of these people and I think those were the most difficult, … just to communicate, convey the idea, you know, about the how the computer operates. So, for example, when you move the mouse, you know, on the mouse pad, or whatever, that, that reflects the movement of the mouse [cursor] on the screen. And some of these Somalis were basically unable to communicate the methodology of how a computer works to them. Very fascinating! and it was like [laughing] causing tremendous amount of problems because these [people] comes to our societies. In a country like Sweden we have a very high education level. Actually in Sweden, you know, most of the young adults there they go to school the longest period of anyone in the world, almost. And so they have a ton of education behind them. And for us to integrate these people into that educational system and then get them into the workforce, is basically close to impossible. Which means that many of these people are just left outside of the workforce and are just ending up living on welfare. And I guess, I would assume, it’s the same in the States then?




Andrew: Yeah, absolutely. I mean these people have been there for decades and there’s nothing going on. I mean I’ve never seen one behaving normally. I mean, you don’t see them like, you know, working at a normal job. Sometimes you see them like, … You don’t even see them, like, working at MacDonald’s, or Taco Bell or something like at a drive-thru. The only jobs they are going to be working are like sweeping floors. I mean, they are really just the epitome of the stupid non-white immigrant! [laughing]


It’s like, anybody who talks about that, “race doesn’t exist” you can look at two groups of people — you can look at Somalians and you can look at the Aborigines. The Aboriginals of Australia. These are like, … you can’t even really say that they’re, like, the same species.


I don’t know why Somalians, you know, I mean there’s probably some kind of explanation for it — but I don’t think anybody has really researched it — why they’re so much different than the rest of the Africans. I guess it’s some kind of inbreeding, you know, I mean these tribes over there, wherever they are going on, they are probably obsessively inbreeding to create this weird look they have, and this behavior.


Henrik: Yeah, I mean a lot of tribal warfare there, as you said. That’s been, of course, one of the reasons why they’ve been exported to some, you know, many other countries. I’m just reading the fertility rates of the average Somali woman is about 6.56. That was measured in 2013. I mean that’s a lot compared to the Western world! And some of them I’ve even seen some families that have like 13, 14, 15 kids! And despite this, it says — I guess this goes back to the statistics I just mentioned — they claim there’s about 85,000 Somalis in the US. That can’t be right, it has to be more.


Andrew: No, I think there’s that many in Columbus. I mean probably. There’s, you know, they’re everywhere and, you know, but they gave us numbers like from 2012 that they said, close to that. Well not close to that, I think they said 50 something, or 60 [thousand]. I’m not looking at it in front of me right now, but I mean, it’s just, everybody says it’s a lie. Everybody knows that it’s a lie, and there’s like a 100,000 of these people in Columbus, Ohio. This is the number that everybody, that lives there, kind of is working with on the ground.


I mean, the other thing about these Somalians, and it’s like, it’s, they’re totally useless! And the only, … when you look at it you’re like, the only reason you would bring these people into your country is if you were trying to destroy the society! So it’s like, you know, with the Mexicans, or with the Indians even. Well, I mean probably the Indians more than the Mexicans, … You know, they’re working these low jobs, these low paying jobs. The Indians come in take away tech jobs and working for lower wages. And the Mexicans do, whatever, I mean construction and working in restaurants and cleaning and so on. You know, these people actually, … you can say like as a capitalist, from that perspective of like, we need lower wages. That this make some kind of sense to bring these types of groups into the country. But when it comes to the Somalians, all they do is live on welfare and commit crimes! They do nothing else! Like I say, I mean, the statistics is like one in ten, less than one in ten has ever had a job! They just all live on welfare. And you see them driving around in SUVs. I mean, I don’t know, a lot of them sell heroin. I didn’t say this before, a lot of them in Columbus, Ohio, are involved in this heroin trade, as well.


Henrik: I didn’t know that there was that many in Ohio. I mean, I’ve heard of Minnesota obviously and it seems that these globalists, like, love to push the Scandinavian, like Somali connection, for some reason. [laughing] It’s like ultimate disaster! But I didn’t know that there was that many in Ohio, … OK, so, I mean, this is the situation that has occurred, it’s fairly rare, but I’ve seen footage of these, like stampedes, in malls and stuff like that, which seems to be primarily driven by Somalis. Is this – are we going to see more of this kind of behavior now, do you think?




Andrew: Yeah, probably. I mean, I don’t know how many more of them are going to be allowed in. Hopefully Donald Trump is going to remove these people. But, I mean, basically what they’ve done is create their own ghettos that they are expanding now. But they don’t, I mean you don’t see these people all that often, living in Columbus, because you avoid them. 


I mean, there’s intersectional places, where especially they can hit you with their cars. You know, in places where the neighborhoods cross and you’re going to be at an intersection and they’re going to run the light and just crash into the side of your car! Which happens all the time.


But, you know, I mean they created their own ghettos. So as far as like, you know, mall stampedes, if that happens probably nobody would even know about it, because it would be at their own mall where they’re the only people there and probably the shops are owned by Arabs and Turks, and nobody even would be aware that that happened. A couple of years ago there was a big thing where they rioted when they were trying to get Section 8 housing, and there were like a hundred positions open for Section 8 housing and like, over a thousand Somalians showed up and they start fighting and burning cars!


You know, I mean this is the most primitive country in the world, basically. Somalia! They have no government. The libertarian dream, they are living it in Somalia! [both laughing] But they, you know, the initiation of force that is going on. But yeah. This is a primitive, … I mean these people are living in dirt on the ground. [more laughing] You see pictures of Somalia, these people actually living on the ground!


Henrik: There is a tremendous problem obviously with Islam and some of these radical groups, I think it’s Al-Shabaab. We’ve actually had a lot of people, the infiltration of Al-Shabaab into, actually, certain Swedish institutions and stuff. And, you know, these, you know, naive Scandinavians seems to be utterly, just completely devoid of realizing what this is, or how dangerous this is, or what these people are all about. And I think, you know, we’ve heard about other kinds of stabbings at malls and attacks, and I think was one even in September, there were some Somalians that were attacking someone in a mall, or something like that. I think this is going to be a tremendous, you know, problem. Why do you think he was — has anything come out why he was like radicalized, or how this was done? Because it was was a Muslim thing, right?


Andrew: Yeah, yeah. He left that Facebook post where he said — he started talking about Burma! What is that even, … it must have been something, … Burma! I mean who would even think of Burma?! And what has the United States have to do with Burma? They might have something to do with Burma, I actually have no idea. But, I mean it’s mostly a Buddhist thing going on in Burma, where they’re sick of the behavior of these Muslims. He started talking about Burma and I said he must have watched something in a class, I mean he is at OSU. He must of, because who even hears about Burma? I mean this Burma situation has been going on forever! It’s not something that people are sitting around thinking about Burma. So that’s what he wrote in his post. I don’t know. He probably watched ISIS videos, or something.


I mean they’re all obsessed with Islam because, you know, they’re very primitive people and this appeals to these people. And I mean, when you bring a foreign group to live among a population that is totally different than them, they’re going to bond together and hate everybody who’s around them. Unless they’re White people, because White people wouldn’t hate anybody. But, you know, maybe this is a problem, but actually, … they will bond together and, you know, that Islam kind of helps with that. And that’s one of the reasons they probably refuse to learn the language, you know, they just look at everybody else as an “other” and yeah, … I mean it’s surprising it does not happen more often. I mean it does happen. They shoot a lot of people, but it’s usually like drug related, or just some kind of thing in a parking lot where they shoot somebody and nobody knows why. I mean that stuff happens virtually every week in Columbus, Ohio.


But they’re horrible and they destroy neighborhoods. It’s like, as soon as — you know my family works in real estate, property and so on — you know, as soon as a Somalian moves in to a neighborhood, it’s like, well, that’s over! Yeah, literally everybody starts trying to sell and the property prices collapse. Because nobody wants to be around these people. And they bring them all — they can bring. I mean they can drive down the price of a property by moving into a neighborhood and then everybody wants to get out. So then, they can move in and the people who own these apartment complexes are forced to work with the government at that point to, you know, like government housing, Section 8 deals with the government. I mean this is a pattern of how they’ve just expanded and taken over the city.




Henrik: Yeah, it’s pretty amazing. Obviously they would be — as you said, just to hammer that point a little bit — they would feel by default as outsiders because of the fact that they won’t be, … they won’t be able to come into and integrate into society. So they will literally create like, a society within the society. Again, we have the same problem in Sweden and it’s not only Somalis, it’s many other groups. But the fact is, that this will make them feel alienated, it will make them feel as outsiders, which is very likely why some of these people are drawn even more to radical Islamic ideas. Because it was like they, they’re grappling and reaching for some kind of anchoring, really, some kind of root, something that ties them to their identity. And frankly I understand that. I mean, that’s a human drive, but the viciousness of this comes into the fact that there is someone lobbying to bring these people into Western countries and think that somehow this is going to turn out good. I mean it’s insanity!


Andrew: Yeah, I don’t think that anybody actually thinks that. I mean, when you see the Somalians, anybody who is around these people, they are like the Zerg. It’s a good analogy there.


Henrik: What was that again?


Andrew: [laughing] It’s from Starcraft.


Henrik: Oh, really, OK. That was a long time since I played that, …


Andrew: Yeah, an insectoid alien race, … Nobody can say that they’re offering benefit to society and they just keep coming! I mean they just keep coming in! And they keep bringing more and more and more of them in and they’re reproducing. And, I mean, nobody can explain why you would bring people, because why? I mean, the only thing to say, is that it’s sad that they’re poor. So you have to bring them in your country and let them live on welfare? And this is like a nonsense type of argument! It’s sad that they’re poor, so we’re going to just destroy our city, our society, because it’s sad that they live in this poor country?


Henrik: Right.


Andrew: That’s insane! I mean there are poor people all over the world, so based on this logic you would have to bring everyone in the world into the US?


Henrik: And they’re trying, aren’t they? And they’re trying, …


Andrew: They are, they are trying, yeah! With these other groups, though, you can come up with some kind of argument. You can say, well the Mexicans, they’re doing the jobs Americans don’t want to do and — I mean, businesses at a certain high level, they are benefiting, at least in the short term, with driving down wages, or they have, you know, benefited in the short term with driving down wages by bringing all these Mexicans. So you can look at it and say, well this is why they’re doing it. I understand there’s a logic to that, that these big companies lobby the government, they want open borders because they benefit from this cheap labor. With Somalians the only possible reason you can do it is because you’re trying to destroy society.


Henrik: Absolutely amazing! You know, this is not going to end well. And we’re just, I think just seeing the beginning of this now.


What do you think — let’s get into Trump a bit here and let’s speculate a bit about what he can actually achieve in these kinds of situations, in these kinds of scenarios. I mean he was the one who actually addressed, you know, radical Islam. He actually, you know, brought it to the surface, he talked about it and thankfully people love the fact that he was addressing this kind of stuff and immigration and really trying to tackle some of these issues. Where do you think he’s going to go, when more and more of these kinds of attacks are going to occur and there’s going to be — I mean, it seems that the attitude of mainstream liberal America right now is basically, we can’t, by name, single them out. We can’t assume that they are going to, you know, be terrorists or commit any crimes, because if we do that, we alienate them. And at that point they will turn on us and they will bomb us, basically. So they think, like — just shut up about it, don’t say anything, don’t bring any attention to it and it’s going to go, it’s just going to go away. That seems to be kind of the mainline strategy right now of  how to deal with this issue.


Andrew: Yeah, I know. I mean, this is the thing they keep saying that if you say anything negative about Islam, then you’re helping terrorism and you’re encouraging terrorism! So if you hurt their feelings, they will kill you! And this is what they said, Donald Trump is helping ISIS, by saying he doesn’t want more Muslims in the United States. If you stop them from coming in then the ones that are already there will kill you! [laughing] It’s like, … Wow! I mean, that kind of logic, this was crazy to me! Because it was like, it wasn’t just one person who said that, which would be bad enough. It was like the whole media at the same time, was like, if you don’t let more of these people in, then the ones who are already here will kill you because of it. [laughing]


Henrik: So, you see, they think they’re preventing terror — that’s the way that they’re going to deal with terrorism! Just bow down and do anything they want, try to bend over and they won’t kill us. No, problem solved, Right?






Andrew: I know, yeah. That is the bottom line of the reasoning that they are presenting. And I mean, you know, if these people are so, … unhinged that if you do something that hurts their feelings they’re just all of a sudden start killing people randomly, these terrorist acts where there’s going randomly kill people, then probably you should not have any of those people in your country. I mean it’s the most obvious thing! You know, Muslims — what is the benefit of these people? What do they provide to society? Muslims, I mean we talk about Somalians — that’s, you know, the most extreme — but just generally Muslims — are they benefiting our society? Can anybody really make that argument seriously?


Henrik: Why do they need to be — it’s almost when you hear the rhetoric of mainstream media and these progressives — it’s like, they have to be in America, we have to continue to bring in more Muslims for some reason. I haven’t heard it being legitimized, or reasoning behind it, it’s just we can’t possibly keep them out. We have to bring them in. What’s the reasoning?


Andrew: There is no reasoning. Just We will call you a racist, which is the worst thing anybody can be called, if you don’t accept it. So you have no choice to accept it, or we will — if you don’t accept it — we will call you names. And this is, I mean, with Donald Trump we finally broke through this because he was just like What?! I mean we got to the point where we cannot talk about this and you can’t say openly What are these people doing here? I mean this guy who drove his car and stabbed these people at OSU, he could have been — he could be sent home. I mean, he is not a giving — I mean, they can all be sent home. This stupid thing that you can’t possibly remove every single one of these people who is not white can’t be sent home from the United States. That is physically possible and it wouldn’t even really take that long. But this guy, …


Henrik: Don’t they want to leave already, now that Trump has gotten in? Is he somehow — they think he’s going to deport people already so they’re thinking about leaving — some of them, I guess? I don’t think they would though. They just talk, right, isn’t it?


Andrew: Yeah, I know, I mean it’s like Lena Dunham, she was going to leave. Yeah, I know. I mean, I think they’re trying to get all they can before they’re forced out. But like, ok, you know, some of these people, to get some of these people out, Donald Trump — I mean he would have to work with Congress and it had to be a process and so on, but there’s visa that this guy had, who stabbed up the kids you know, he could just be sent home. I mean right like immediately. Donald Trump could sign an executive order to strip that class of refugee visa and they could just say well, Hey buddy, you got to go back to Somalia, you know. Maybe read up on some libertarian literature and you can start a private road business. [laughing] There is no government country.


So yeah, I mean that group of people can be sent home. He’s talked about sending home these — I mean he says, he’s promised he’s going to do it immediately. Round up two to three million illegal Mexican criminals and send them home. So there are things that he can do to get rid of these people immediately. They don’t require congressional approval, or any kind of government process to just do it. And a lot of these Somalians — I mean they’ve given up a bunch of citizenship now so obviously that creates another level of technical details you have to deal with to get rid of these people. But a lot of the Muslims can just be sent home, a lot. You know, a huge percentage of all these people can be sent home.


Henrik: You know, I think Trump hopefully — he made a smart kind of a word play, I guess, when he did that – after he won the election — he did an interview with 60 minutes and, you know, they were like — that was one of the central questions that the interview with that, whatever her name is — Lesley Stahl, or whatever the hell her name is, …


Andrew: Yeah, a horrible woman, …


Henrik: [laughing] Yeah, absolutely horrible. She was like pressing him on this issue of immigration and like, oh my — or these illegal immigrants — What are you going to do? How are you going to deport these people? And then he started talking about, you know, well the criminals, like those that are criminal. And my reasoning when I heard that it was well by default a criminal would be an illegal immigrant, right? [laughing] The very aspect that they’re here in the US illegally that makes them a criminal. So by even his own definition that should mean — he should be able to send all of them home because they’ve entered into the country under false premises and all he has to do is basically create the legal incentive willpower and direction of the government of saying No, these people did it wrong, they have to go back. And then he can, you know — I think he said something like that – they can apply from the outside, or something like that, whatever. But the point is they’ve not followed the rules and hence they are criminals, right?


Andrew: Yeah. No, I mean — what he’s talking about is ones who have committed crimes other than the immigration itself, that have committed crimes and are being held, you know, in sanctuary in the United States — just allowed, I mean they arrest these people and then just release them.


Henrik: I know, it’s amazing.


Andrew: So what he’s talking about is doing a roundup, like a mass roundup — like kicking in doors, you know, at 3 a.m. pulling people out of bed in their underwear and throwing them in a black van, get them on a train back to — back across the Rio Grande. So I mean, I think he’s going to do that.

What he would do after that though, I mean in practical terms, is start giving serious fines to both businesses that hire them and put people at rent to them, because if they can’t get jobs there, or have a place to live, they have to go back. And then after you did that, second step — then you could go in and roundup any stragglers, but I mean if you don’t – if you require documents to work, I mean besides like, you know, maybe some guys at the Home Depot they’ll pick them up in the parking lot to help them with the dry wall, or the landscaping. But I mean, I would even send out, you know, arrest — find the people who pick them up in Home Depot – send cops out there in Home Depot. But I mean the ones who — I mean there are always businesses, these major businesses hire illegal immigrants. I mean they’re allowed to. I don’t know, I mean it’s illegal, but they’re allowed to do it. They don’t get punished. So, you know, if you stop that from happening, most of these people are going to actually self-deport.

I mean the Jewish media keeps attacking that term self-deport, but this would absolutely happen. I mean, what are you going to do if you can’t work and don’t have a place to live? Unless you’re involved in drug trafficking. But most of these people would be shipped out in the first wave of two to three million.


Henrik: Yeah, exactly. I wonder if Trump starts addressing this and let’s assume that there will be — let’s assume the media’s correct and there will be more terrorist attacks. Obviously the media will blame Trump in that it’s his fault. He’s creating this with his rhetoric, or whatever, and obviously this would turn up the heat on this kind of conflict, which I think is kind of inevitable at some stage anyway. It seems like — but it would be, you know, it might be tougher in the short term, but in the long term this would be something which is much more benefit — I mean I’ve always held the view that, you know, these multiculturalists and these progressives that are pushing this kind of society that we’re seeing developing now — that is the society that’s going to lead to bloodshed and terror and bombings and just horrible, you know, crimes and slaughters and terrors and what we’re advocating is the separation of people to have their own nations which is going to, you know, be much more difficult for people to over ethnic and, you know, other levels find ways to fight with each other. I’ve always seen this as the peace solution, if you will, and theirs as the war solution. What you think?


Andrew: Yeah, I know, absolutely. I mean we see this already. You don’t have – in ethnically homogenous countries you don’t have these levels of violence. I mean you do in black countries and Arab countries because these people are killing each other. But you don’t have that in any White countries that are left, you don’t have people killing each other and blowing each other up. You know, why would they do that? What would be the point of doing it? Any kind of conflict is either over resources — I mean it’s pretty much is always going to be over resources unless it’s some kind of nonsense thing.

But I mean these ethnic warfare — these are competing genetic groups, competing for control of the society to inflict their will on the group that they’re occupying. So I mean that’s when you have these Pakistani — they call them grooming gangs in England where they get these little girls and put them in sex slavery, and are trafficking them around, I mean this is a , …


Henrik: Kebabgate.


Andrew: Yeah, yeah. This is a way of attacking the social order of the foreigners and humiliating the men. Humiliating the men in the society that We’re going to take your daughters and, you know, pass them around and just, you know. I mean the stuff that they do to them. You can read at counter currents — there’s a few very good articles on there detailing what these Pakistanis were doing to these girls, you know, say it, …


Henrik: Yeah, sodomites. The worst sadists, worst fucking atrocities ever.


Andrew: And these little girls, you know, 11-12 years old, and they’re doing these gang bangs! It’s just horrible stuff! And this is a way to humiliate the men. And this is what, you know, Cologne, when they do this taharush, this is to humiliate the men. Like We are assaulting your women in front of you and you are doing nothing. And on a biological level men should be able to understand that, like These are our women these women belong to us and they are violating our women in front of us. This is the most demeaning, degrating thing that any group can do to another group just on a very basic primal level and everybody should be able to recognise that. But, you know, I mean with feminism and the emasculation of men and this brainwashing program that men have been through they’re not seeing that. But, you know, whether they recognize this or not, we are in a hostile situation. We are in a race war situation all over the Western world because we have flooded ourselves with these people that are intent on conquering us.


And I, you know, I mean you always have to go back and blame the Jews because it’s the Jews who created this social cultural paradigm that makes this OK and in almost everywhere. It’s the Jews who are actually engaged in the process of bringing these people into our countries. But even if the — you know, the immigration groups and the laws that are being passed are not all run by Jews which – that the laws are passed by Jews — in the United States they all have been. But, you know, these people try to play a game with you, like Oh well, there’s this country where there’s no Jews, but they running the government, but they still have a high level of — I mean, I think Sweden. I don’t know.


Henrik: Well, you’re right about that. It’s the morality that has been pushed in the cultural dialogue. I mean, we had David Schwartz, for example, was one of the prominent Jews in Sweden that in the 70s started to put — I think maybe even 60s, I’m not sure now, I have to look that up again — but he was basically pushing this in the media and despite the fact that a country like Sweden only has like I think only 20,000 Jews or something. I mean if there’s a tremendous over representation of Jews in the media. Bonnier family, of course, they hold, you know, owned the major publications and newspapers and printing and stuff like that, books, you know, publications. But even the small time — like small local town papers that was bought out by some of the biggest Jewish conglomerates and — you know, so you can read about what’s happened locally like in the little town here and there in the paper, but then all of a sudden there’s like every other week there’s like a Holocaust story, or like when the Jews came to this little town… [laughing] Any of these people care about this? It’s like ridiculous… That’s my point – but they push immigration as like a moral virtue in the media, that’s my point.


Andrew: The whole new — you can call it liberal, I guess — the whole new social paradigm that the Western world, and cultural paradigm that the Western world is soaking in is entirely Jewish. So, you know, this is what they sold to the goyim — this new form of morality where the highest form of morality is actually committed genocide against yourself — is ultimately what it is. I mean, you see this where it’s very clear in Germany. I mean, I just posted a video of this German, he’s a blond German guy in his 20s or maybe early 30s who’s teaching migrants how to seduce – migrants, Somalians, Afghanis Pakistanis — how to seduce German women!


Henrik: Yeah, Mister Flirt, what’s his name again? I know whom you’re talking about – Horst Wenzel.


Andrew: Horst Wenzel, yeah! And the government is funding him to do this class. And the government gives out – I think he made a lot of video — where the government gives out these documents showing immigrants how to impregnate white women. I mean, they have these pampflets that have the black penis going into the white vagina and impregnate — semen coming out and showing the baby inside! They’ve printed these documents and handed them out to the immigrants! What is going on here?! This is an actual attempt to genocide the German race!


Henrik: And what he’s doing — and this is an excellent point that what he’s doing, Horst Wessel here, is basically — he’s trying to basically give them a code of how to get these women in bed. Meaning, you know, you have to adapt a little bit to our culture so that they will basically open up to you and open their legs. Right? So it’s like — it’s a very incredibly sly way of making sure that these women are immediately accepted as that that these guys are, for example, maybe not, you know, coming on a strong, or something like that. I don’t know, but they would they’re probably like that anyway. Right because most of the Western men are emasculated at this point anyway so they probably — I mean some people even argued that like — reasons why many of these feminists are pushing some of the stuff is because on some level subconsciously they they want some of this. I don’t know if that’s true but, you know, I wouldn’t be surprised frankly by some of these feminists anyway.


Andrew: No, I absolutely believe that it is true that they — you know, I mean feminism is a demand for men to become men and, you know, put them back in line because women have been put in a position where they can’t reproduce as they’re supposed to by the feminist, you know, system where they’re supposed to go to college and go get a job and all those, when it’s just a basic biological fact that they should be producing children. I mean, they should be! I mean, you know, I mean — basically a woman in nature is going to be pregnant, you know, at 16, 17, maybe even earlier. And they have a drive to do that. It’s a biological drive to reproduce so when you tell women Well, maybe you can get married when you’re 30 maybe — I mean this is way after peak fertility and, you know, I think it drives women a little bit insane and I think there is a subconscious drive to return to some kind of more natural setting and I think that it’s very clear that they view these Arabs as — and blacks even — as representing something more close to the natural order and I think that’s why you have all these women — at least a part of why you have always women out there protesting for this mass — this invasion — and saying, you know, I’m a feminist, but I also want Muslims — because that doesn’t make any sense. That doesn’t make any logical sense on the face of it. You’re a feminist, but you also support Islam. That’s like an insane type statement.


Henrik: Andrew, I guess it’s also been one of the more controversial things I guess you’ve been talking about on the site. I know that some people have charged you that, you know, you don’t like women for this reason and I think everyone who has their head screwed on right can see that the feminism is a problem, or whatever, but there’s been some back and forth whether or not this is, you know, women’s fault, or whatever — we had, for example, that video by Black Pidgeons speaks that kind of went into this a little bit — that video went all over the place and there was a lot of push-back on that kind of mentality as well. But is it anything you like to say about that? Or is there a way that we can still make it? Because I see that there is obviously a relationship that we need to start developing with our women, to have — be on equal footing — not equal footing, but we need to be understanding of the fact that we can work together to take care of this problem instead of, you know, basically having issues that drives the wedge deeper between us and creates an even more rift, that’s what I mean.


Andrew: I know, I get accused of, quote, hating women, which I don’t even know — this is like a, I think, a type of nonsense statement. I do not hate women. I am very appreciative for women. I, you know, I like women. I have a girlfriend. I have a very good relationship with my mother. I don’t have any specific issue with women, which people suggest that I have some kind of personal problem here, but no.


My view on women is that we had the correct balance between the genders before feminism. So, you know, I mean basically men have the same opinion of women if you go back a hundred years and then you go back to the beginning of recorded history and then you go back to the caves before that. You’re going to have pretty much the same view of women which is not hatred for women. I mean, to say that there was a thousands of years, or millions of years if you go back to, you know, the invention of language, conspiracy against women is totally nonsensical.


My view on women is that they have a specific role to play in society that is different than the role that men play in society. And I think that they should be, you know, in the home. They should be mothers. When you get into the political realm and you have women involved in politics, I think, it can be maybe problematic on some level because that’s not something that women are naturally interested in. So I think that, you know, it can be something where people put too much focus on this idea that we got to get women into politics and I’ve said well, you know, I mean this is like a bunch of women saying Well, we’ve got to get men interested in shoe shopping.


I think it’s probably not something we’re going to have a bunch of women interested in radical, you know, revolutionary politics, you know, that all the journalists… So obviously you’re going to have some women — we do have some women, but all the journalists at NPI – we talk about the NPI later – all the journalists were saying Where are the women? But the fact is women are not especially interested in this type of thing and I think that’s fine, it’s natural for women not to be especially interested, …


Henrik: And still that’s quite a bit of women there actually it was like they were blind to me these journalists, you know, majority men obviously but, you know, they were there. Amazing.


Andrew: So, you know, I don’t have any issue with women. There’s a lot of hyperbole and satire and so on on my website. And I think that people take that and say well this guy support beating women! [laughing] No, I do not I do not support beating women. I do not hate women. I think that women are much happier in a — I mean like a lot happier — in a traditional social order where they’re at home, they’re mothers, they’re having kids and taking care of the kids, and not trying to pretend to be men.


Basically what the Jews have said to women is that you’re defective men. You just need to become more like men, repair yourself from your femininity and become a man, and I don’t think this is — I mean this is insulting to women to say femininity is a negative thing and then, you know, they have to become masculine, they have to become, you know, men. They have to become like men, that everything is pushing them into this role and I don’t think that women are being asked whether or not this is what they want. And I think that what feminism has done is feminize the male space by bringing all of these women into the male space we feminize the male space and we feminize boys by making them have to conform to female standards. You’ve got this woman here it’s going to change the behavior of men. And when you have women in all male spaces it changes the entire ability for men to function as men.


You know, I mean women still have their own spaces that men don’t get involved in. But women have been shoved into all of places where men traditionally were able to have their own space and be dominant in their own environment. I think that shoving women into all these things has been — had overwhelmingly negative outcome and I think it’s something that needs to be reconsidered because this has been shown not to be helpful for society. Just like we were talking about the women — the men have been so feminized that the women, they’re not even attracted to them anymore, because of — and this is what feminism has done, this gender reversal. I don’t think it’s been something good for anybody.


Henrik: I know, exactly. I mean, you’re right. Millions of years of evolutionary paths who we’ve developed roles and functions which is, you know, biologically and genetically tied and for women that means fulfilling the most important roles that there is — which is the continuation of our people, of our folk. It’s the most noble task that there is and it’s really unbelievable that, you know, the propaganda and the psyops has been so strong, so powerful that this very biological function they’ve managed to turn on its head, now they’re walking in the opposite direction. So yeah, absolutely extraordinary.


But Andrew, we’re going to take a break here in just a little bit and, of course, we’re going to continue to talk more after that. We’re going to talk about Trump, what to do now when he is in office. Where is this recount issue actually going anywhere. We’ll talk about the role of the alt-right, you know, post Trump MPI and much more like that.


But tell people a bit more about your website. I don’t think there’s many that listens that are new to you, Andrew, but tell us a little bit about it anyway and if there’s a way that people can help you out and support to make sure that you can continue to do the work that you do.


Andrew: Yeah my website is dailystormer.com and people can donate but not really. [laughing] Pretty much have to mail me money because all my stuff has been cut off. Bitcoin, people can send me bitcoin but I don’t really have any way to fund the site because I’ve been banned from everything because of the jews.


Henrik: Ouch! [Andrew laughing] Yeah, well that shows we need ours own platforms. Well actually let’s talk a bit about censorship too in the next segment here in terms of what’s happening right now with Twitter and where this is going to go, they’re thinking about banning Trump, I guess? I mean this is retarded [Andrew laughing] — this is going to crashed their own — this is going to go into the toilet for a jack there.


But yeah, let’s take a short break here, folks, and we’ll return shortly and, of course, if you do want to, you know, support what we do, if you like our show, definitely sign up for membership with us. That’s a great way of supporting us and ensuring that we can continue doing what we do. Most of the second hours that we do of these radio shows are available in the members’ segment. We also, of course, have the other weekend live show that you can watch exclusive for members and then, of course, we do a lot of public live streams as well. So definitely keep an eye on those.


We actually have — let me just mention that here too, right at the end — we have coming up here shortly a couple of live streams. We’ll have more information on redice.tv/live about that from the Italian EU referendum and then we’re going to turn to live stream the speech that Richard Spencer is going to do at Texas A&M as well. That might be interesting, but yes, let’s take a short break here, folks. Stay with us, Andrew, we’ll be right back with the second segment.














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Henrik: Welcome back ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us. We’re speaking with Andrew Anglin from Daily Stormer. We are talking about Trump, we’re talking about the situation in Ohio with the Somalis and the bigger questions of where we are going in terms of our our people and the survival of European man, the White man, and woman for that matter too.


We’re going to talk a bit more now about Trump. I wanted to discuss a bit about him winning the election, basically and what, if any role, that the Alt-Right actually had in that. I know that they are doing, of course, Jill Stein, I think she’s definitely Jewish, I think. She’s doing, [laughing] she’s doing a recount effort right now. And I guess she was raising millions of dollars to try to trigger this and I believe Wisconsin that actually did it, or something like that. What do, you know, about this issue Andrew and do you think this is actually going to go anywhere? Is there any indication that the Electoral College would change their mind? Can they change their mind at this point?


Andrew: No! No! This is just a blatant Jew money grab by Jill Stein. That’s all it is. I’ve looked at it. And it’s not even possible, I mean Michigan has already counted twice. Are they going to count a third time because she sues? No! They’re going to be like, look we did this twice already. We’re not doing it another time. You know, Wisconsin, … It doesn’t matter. There’s no way! I mean, even if they did flip Wisconsin it doesn’t matter. So, they’re not going to do that. This jew woman, Jill Stein, is just saying, “We’re going to make it so that Donald trump is not the president. Just give me money and I’ll make the pain go away!” she is exploiting theses emotionally vulnerable crazies, who are, you know, flipping out about Donald trump. I think it’s now two times that the donations to her campaign recount, is I think, two times her total intake of donations for the presidential campaign.


Henrik: Wow!


Andrew: And on the site it says, “Well we might not use all this money for a recount, but we will use it for something!” [laughing] Like, we’ll use it for “election integrity” in the future.


Henrik: Right.


Andrew: Which, what does that mean? I mean it means absolutely nothing!


Henrik: Because she was against Hillary! I mean she even warned against her and said like, horrible when it comes to the wars and stuff. And she must realize that this effort, … I mean I don’t think this is going to go anywhere, but if you did, what would happen would we get Hillary in office? I mean, that’s disastrous! Even she knew that!


Andrew: Yeah, no, but I mean this is not, this is not an honest thing that is she doing. This is just a money grab by a jew. I believe that 100%. There’s no, she doesn’t believe, there’s nobody believes that. I mean these computer programmers came out and said, “Well, it’s possible,” I mean the basic thing that they said was, “Well if Russia would have hacked the election, then they would leave no evidence.” And there’s no evidence! So maybe Russia hacked the election! [Henrik laughing] This is literally what these computer programmer said this. They came out and said this and she said, “Aha! This is proof!” That the proof is no proof. So, you know, I mean this is an extremely, it’s just a Jewish hoax situation.


And then the media goes on at the same time that they’re talking about it. “Oh yeah, we need this recount, Jill Stein. We’ve got to do this!” They’re telling Donald Trump that there’s no possibility that there was any voter fraud. I mean that is that whole thing that was going on, where they’re talking about Russia’s going to hack the election, but Donald Trump says, you know, there could be fraud, but that’s a conspiracy theory. But somehow Russia is going to remotely hack, and that’s what the whole Jill Stein thing is, is that Russian did it. I mean, this whole Russian did it meme is nuts! I can’t believe really that they keep pushing it.


Henrik: Extraordinary!


Andrew: Because it’s like, it’s not, you know, the 80s, the Cold War’s over. And I mean, but, …


Henrik: They used to love Russia! They used to love communism, right? Now they’re just like, they have flipped, like that! It’s amazing! [laughing]


Andrew: Well, you know, people don’t even think about Russia! Like when you start, … Hillary was talking about Russia, Russia, Russia! People are like, “What? You mean that country from the 80s? What does that have to do with anything?” I mean, it’s like a normal person is like, “What?


Henrik: Yeah, you think so? They’re not buying the, … I mean we know that, of course, the media as credibility goes, have taken tremendous hits during the ascendancy of Trump and well done for him on that. I mean, you know, even that issue alone is worth celebrating him for. The fact that he managed to destroy the reputation of these major media companies. And they continue to lie through their teeth and they’re continuing to ruin doing their reputations and that’s that’s awesome!




But the fact that, you know, you have a, … It seems at least that there is one of these liberal kind of following that still believe that somehow, you know, Russia is going to like, nuke America, or something. That they believe that they’re going to be like, trying to control the election, or, I guess control Donald Trump somehow, through donations, or something. I don’t know what they believe, but it’s amazing that this conspiracy theory keep lingering even in the mainstream media, isn’t it?


Andrew: Yeah. I don’t think many people actually believe it. I think it’s just something that the media is, … They don’t have anything else to say. It’s like there’s nothing else that they can come up with, so they just, I mean they would normally blame, like a right wing, like the Republicans. But the Republicans are all against Donald Trump as well. So, it’s like well, they dh to blame Russia. There was nobody left to blame! They weren’t going to blame themselves, so they just said, well, we’re just going to blame everything on Russia! And Russia said, what are you talking about? What is anything, what are you talking about?


You know, Russia, I don’t think, you know, did anything. I mean, it’s possible but there’s no evidence Russia did anything to do with this election. They definitely didn’t hack the voting machines. They came up with that it wasn’t even possible to do that. They kept talking about it and then they said we would have to actually be there, to do it. You couldn’t do it remotely. So, you know, I mean it’s a completely weird thing to come out and say that Russia is behind everything!


Now, Angela Merkel is coming out and saying that Russia is going to destroy their elections! That Russia is going to hack their elections and that Russia has an army of internet trolls and that they’re putting out propaganda against the EU! And, you know, they pass this resolution to shut down Russian Internet propaganda and, I mean, they’re trying to censor the Inter actual mainstream Western media is doing to Russia, … To talk about Russia is involved in a propaganda conspiracy with secret troll operations, they have troll factories! This is a term that they’re using. They say that Russia has troll factories where they have, I guess, just cubicles full of skinheads [Henrik laughing] with [laughing] with Pepe shirts with MAGA hats on! You know, just trying to get SWJ feminists to kill themselves, on Twitter. I mean, I don’t know, they never really gone into details about this. But Hillary, in her speech, said that the whole Alt-Right was controlled by Vladimir Putin! That Alex Jones was working directly for Vladimir Putin.


So, you know, this is just a really goofy type thing! I mean, it’s like, it’s like cartoony!


Henrik: Yeah. You know, people think that there’s going to be disaster under Trump and I think that things are just going, on a very mundane level, mundane, I mean, we talking about bringing back jobs and all these kinds of things. He was even making deals already with the Carrier play, and he’s not even in office yet, and it’s already happening. He’s great, you know, like he’s saving jobs and all this kind of stuff. And I think people are going to be, … Those people are so, you know, in opposition to Trump, they’re going to be in such a state of cognitive dissonance, that they’re not going to comprehend the fact that things are going to start improving. What do you think you’ll be able to actually pull off and is there any, is there any reasoning for us to be worried about, let’s say his, you know, Israel policies, or, you know, some of these prominent Jews that are around him and stuff like that? Is there a concern, is there a reason to become concerned about that?


Andrew: Well, on the first thing, I think he’s going to make America great again. [laughing] Second to that question, no, I think that on the material level and on the very, the very basic level that we are going to get rid of these immigrants, we are going to make a bonding between people. People are going to feel stronger socially. And I think he’s going to do what he’s talking about with the economy and make it so people are making better wages and they can have, you know, a house and have a better life. I mean, if you start bringing, … I mean he’s talking about, I mean he’s literally in negotiations before he’s even president with Apple, to bring factories home to manufacture Apple products! I mean this is like, … I don’t think Apple products, not since the 80s have they’ve been made in the United States. So, I mean, this is like a revolution!





As far as a Jew is this is a this is a very important question the use around it because, you know, I mean there’s crazy Internet. I’m sick of even entertaining people their life will die whole don’t work for the Jews all along. Right. Me I think this is actually a Jewish conspiracy the Jewish conspiracy is saying that Donald Trump is partly due to fears he I mean I’m sure that some kind of.

This is this is not a natural mean that just a bunch of crazies on the Internet would come up with that because he does so much already that even if it stopped now. I mean we have we have come so far that they say well they wanted him instead of Hillary didn’t think. So I mean some people are just so hopeless they think there’s literally no way have any effect whatsoever on the system and that’s just where they are in their minds and I think it’s basically just literally a mental illness.

But D’Souza around him. I mean this is a real concern, you know, I mean to so when you start saying well what about his dues. I mean just to put it into as treasury secretary which I, you know, I obviously don’t like that and, you know, I think rules for Goldman Sachs. Dude. Yeah.

So you’ve got this guy in there and you’ve got a son in law in there who was like trying to get security clearance he did Al that you do that. He can’t he can’t have any security. But, you know, he’s in there and he was trying to stack the place with neo-con Jews by all, you know, these like total boatman’s Actually I thought he was into a god read that he would not do as he actually ate. But anyway he’s a fool who Neo-Conif we did not want him in there. I mean I know he’s been some Goldman Sachs to bring this thing back.

These back.

But, you know, I think that on some level he has to do this so you only get assassinated. I mean that would be my honest answer that, you know, someone. But all these use have so much power that he has to work with them on some level to keep from getting assassinated and it’s similar to what Putin did and Russia and I mean Putin did make from if you look at what happened to Russia from an one nine hundred ninety S. To right now. I mean Putin has made Russia great again like literally that has happened. He made it from, you know, this thing that was just collapsing everything was breaking apart every girls were out, you know, on just prostitutes on the street for five dollars to get some bread, or vodka in the ninety’s when all hell was breaking was and take in that situation and made a pretty stable global superpower I mean there still are poverty in Russia, but it’s still a lot better than it was so, you know, I mean in the end he had to work with the with the Jews he still does have to certain degree, but he I mean put a bunch of in prison and a bunch of them fled the country because of their crimes and he was going to arrest them and they fled, you know, it so you had a kind of balance there which is not I mean it’s not ideal.

But, you know, these Jews have an incredible amount of power and so I mean to say that through the voting process at least I mean you could have some kind of military coup and get rid of them, but I mean we’re we’re actually working within the system like downsampled doing. You can’t just totally push them out immediately and I don’t even know if he wants to.

But basically what I will always come back to every single human agenda.

Donald Trump is in direct opposition to black up and down up and down the line from, you know, immigration to the attacks on the society and Christianity and just the attacks on the working class and then moving the globalist policies and the in. Nationalism taking care of the world all these wars in the Middle East. I mean it is just down the line of the whole Jewish genda you have balance off standing in opposition to the one thing he does say as you mentioned is that he supports Israel. Well OK without doing anything. Israel there’s a reason that Israel. Attacks their state is one thing we give a lot of money, but that’s the small issue. The big issue is that we have to go fight these wars because they’re controlling our government running our foreign policy and telling us that it’s somehow in our interest to nuke Iran, or invade, you know, attack Libya and have a terrorist revolution in Libya, or Syria, you know, the invasion of Iraq all these wars that Jews who were, you know, a lot of people were really Jews I mean Richard Perle who grew up this play in the original point that became the Iraq war manifesto that was part of the Bush government with Jews never. I mean he was working for the Israeli government when he came up with this idea of populate all these he did tutors.





So the quote unquote dictators I mean they’re basically what I say there’s kings I mean Arabia has had this for like ever. They’ve had these monarchy systems and that’s it is that the kind of change the name that’s it that’s what they want is it’s basically what I mean effectively was the king of Libya. Same could be said for Saddam and that Assad I mean this is, but this is what these people like this and it’s a way to keep them from go and who Moki crazy where they just, or rather the desert talking to their heads off and drowning people into Ages when people are building is ISIS is like wow I mean that’s why you need to have that this strong man leader because this is what they will revert to like immediately. Yeah I mean even if you look at the history of this is the kind of stuff they were doing when Muhammad. Originally, you know, showed up in Arabia and tried to unify these the these tribal unified travel groups and I mean it’s an interesting history. But if you were savages that’s what happened. Dressed their women up in bags like that because they’re just like their women themselves, or wanted. I mean these people would just be. That’s why they’re so inbred they don’t even know who they’re having sex with either disappeared. There is a huge from the Danish researcher that detail some of that unfairly inbreeding was a tremendous problem because there’s so much so much more tribal, you know, only comes from a kind of the better in tribes in the Arabian Peninsula that was just like, you know, lingering around and that’s kind of still I guess a mentality that’s still there within within the herbes, you know. Yeah it specially the like immorality. Right. Arabs I mean these people are so stupid and they have a lot of money if I mean, you know, if you ever around and most people around a museum in New York, or some in London. Obviously in Dubai. But most people probably the listeners have never been to either of those three cities but, you know, you look at the people’s faces. Nate they like have something wrong with them they look like monsters like me and they’re the worst of the Arabs. I know a guy who actually worked as a personal trainer for one of Prince

Well I actually sat, you know, there’s this royal family in Saudi Arabia and there’s a lot of them and he, you know, he knew somebody was in there and.

Close to a woman in their operations he said these are the stupidest people that you ever meet your wife. I mean these people are like really really stupid like they can’t really read and this is what the

U.S. Government set them. Well I mean the Western the West has a soul set them up as the as a proxy government there for is this oil and, you know, I mean is it that the Saudi regime. Team serves as a proxy to government. He Arabs and right.

You know I mean and so you’re the Saudi Arabian royal family and the Jew Israel government agree on absolutely everything. I mean there are no pro isis there Pro pro terrorism and pro this. This is monkey sanity. So yeah I mean I go on a bit of here, but the the the strongman system bottom right about hoping I just says the straw man system is necessary to keep these people people in line and in Arabia and the neo-cons knew that this madness would happen which is it’s also what we response will produce terrorism and well and the quote unquote refugee gee crisis but, you know, I mean sort of the refugee gee crisis because you can just stop these people from coming in and it’s not like there’s like no way, you know, when they see death like there is no way to stop that if problem if you don’t do is turn the boats around you send it if they land you say OK well we’re taking a back. I mean, or you have to show what you could just sink their boat yeah I mean, you know, who cares. Yet you get sent a message right that’s the point. That’s really saying it with this with audio of a strong dictatorial leader that like keeps these people in check. I mean look at the Saudi prince right I mean he when he is aren’t yet sitting around, you know, when he was in Beverly Hills this is back in 2015. He was basically assaulting and raping at least I think it was at least three women I think it might have been more even five when he wasn’t looking. He was a hearty isn’t Beverly Hills mansion and he got off scot free. He could just basically leave the US no problem whatsoever. And he was like keeping them captive and stuff like that and he’s like sex drugs if you parties and just like I was like you just great. These are crazy people, you know, and they allowed. Run free and do whatever the heck they want.





Yet in Western countries they have this woman this princess. In Paris. She was in Paris and she she kidnapped her I mean she had a decorator interior decorator in her apartment in Paris. I forget the district. I don’t know I mean they were one of the really rich description of her. And he was taken. He was doing an interior decorating is taking pictures with his phone and these people are so stupid. She thought it was some kind of like intelligence conspiracy that he was taking pictures of or, you know, her apartment like it was some kind of a thank you. Was a conspiracy against against her and she had the security put a gun to his head and did what a better thing where he had to lick her. I mean. But if you say weird. I mean this is these people are savages and they’re war can savages I mean work around pervert. This woman is forty something years old is having this may have licked her toes.

And then she she fled and I don’t know me just diplomatic immunity they said they might prosecute the bodyguard, but this I mean people are weird.

It’s bizarre absolutely bizarre, but this, you know, these are regions and people that I’ve gotten rich off of the West. If it wasn’t for us and our, you know, when we meet and everything else they would be in a very different situation still and they were living in caves. I mean it wasn’t getting into Hades. And we went in there and give him all his money and all that I mean look at Dubai, or Abu Dhabi any of these places and it’s it’s all. And I’ve actually been to both the city and it’s all of German built everything they’re built like the Luxor Mercedes’s And, you know, gold and bling and it’s amazing, you know, what they’re like they’re like children these people. Yeah this money is just given to them. There are always people saying oh yeah I’m doing, you know, I’m doing trading I’m doing. We’ve got a business of trade and imports and exports company we’re. If we’re not doing anything the government just gives out money to these people for the oil and they just write children pretending to be adults in these buildings that are all built by Germans with all these products that all come from White Western country and, you know, if there was no reason to do that we need, or we should have set up colonies in these countries and taken the oil which, you know, probably that, you know, it wasn’t even necessary. I mean I really think with a real sitting on it right there using any of his and I think that’s one of the problems when you don’t develop you don’t go through one of the developments yourself. You just basically are handed handed billions and I only know how to do this to turn everything into Disneyland for them. You know, you know, it’s totally different just all hookers and race cars and, you know, like store these malls.

I mean it’s a disgusting decadent thing Arabs are absolutely just thing. Amazing. Well just switching back a little bit you were talking about earlier and, you know, flip course trunk I should do something that I think you should talk he spoke about that we should take it, you know, regarding Iraq you said we should take in the oil and just got now and he’s right. Hopefully he can he can follow suit and do some of that kind of stuff, but all you would have to do is occupy the oil production facilities and then I didn’t do anything. I mean, you know, I mean we’re going to go and take it you can you can leave a military force there and, you know, have a military occupation of the country and take oil. I mean, you know, this is very easy to do and it would be profitable for United States to do it. So that’s what he. After we never had a wedding and after we went in we should have stayed and kept the oil and I supplied the oil fields and shipped oil back to, you know. Yeah course our country have to pay for everything, you know, that in your own thing. It’s amazing. This goes bankrupt if the United States believes billion euro trillion it isn’t the worst. It’s really yet we’re truly going to bring freedom and democracy.

I look at all that work out. I look at that and then we got Isis and then because of that we’ve got in the migration crisis I mean I can’t help to see the fence not an accident any of that something when you have Israeli hospitals aiding these ISIS generals, or whatever they’re called, you know, making sure that they’re backing out again and fighting in a never attack Israel and I mean there’s like there’s a whole lot of stuff going on behind the scenes here that most people have just not aware of at all. You know.





Andrew: you know, I mean Turkey got caught shipping oil Israel. I mean it’s, you know, this stuff is known and if you’re invited to film crew to film them giving medical aid to and go in heights to ISIS terrorists. They invited the crew there and, you know, it was on a daily mail.

You know so they’re not even going in hiding and, you know, I mean again they said it was for humanitarian reasons.

We got to help them they’re injured.

Israel baby killers are like well we got help you terrorists. Sadly got shot when they were fighting terrorists, or no, but I mean they’ve been sort of Kuwait about their desire to I mean Netanyahu self as the Israeli Israel as a country and so much about their desire to overthrow Assad, but yeah I mean that operation. I mean this is another problem. Back before he even in office there. I mean they’re going to take back Aleppo and it’s going to be the end of the of the Syrian quote unquote civil war which is actually a terrorist proxy war by the West against Assad who was a popular elected leader and nationalist leader now. Yeah yeah that’s amazing. Yeah I mean and to have some speakers actually at the was a alliance for peace and freedom the European Council missed umbrella branch in the European Union they had a conference in Rome recently and they actually had a speaker there from Syria kind of addressing some of these issues and there are some of them a VERY where they’re very, very on the ball they know kind of how the New World Order how that operates and the fact that they may turn Syria into one of their enemies, you know, to talk a little Everything else is a myth. There are many there they’re actually clued in. I just wish most of them didn’t have to come to Europe, of course, is a problem, but under just switching gears a little bit and just kind of heading right into a different direction here for a little bit. Give us your Give us your opinion on the future of the old trite post post MPI and everything that occurred during the week and ended in this so-called controversy after these salutes and everything. What was your take on this. Well this is Ben I mean there’s virtually no downside to it in my view I mean this has been a fantastic thing all around and I, you know, I salute ale RICHARD SPENCER for this, you know, that this thing that he did this was just beautiful.

You know the first thing is we got all of this which I don’t Trump himself and the ordeal, you know, good publicity is better than bad publicity, but there’s not. He said the bad publicity is better than no publicity. So, you know, and it wasn’t really even bad publicity, you know, people young people were our target audience, you know, people teenagers and that’s what I always say that I’m basically targeting people under thirty even. Twenty

A lot of people I see I’m on my form. I’ve done polls of the ages. It’s hard to gauge this, but there are a lot of kids in high school that read they was far. And that’s sort of, you know, a lot of weight when it’s your two which is why some older people don’t necessarily understand it, but I think that, you know, I mean it’s always about the kids because that’s that’s the future if you’re thinking about any kind of long term political movement which is what I’m thinking in terms of I think everybody needs to be thinking in those terms you want to be going for the youngest possible group because they’re the ones with the energy and they’re the easiest ones to get their minds changed, you know, and you don’t think I mean once somebody solidified in some kind of stupid nonsense when what they locked their brain on that it’s very hard to switch out of it. I mean people do, you know, I mean just this type of race were not available when I was a teenager at least not openly easy access available so, you know, I had to switch my own thinking as I said, and all, but a I mean a lot of people are going to have it is going to be very difficult for me to always want to target the young and I think that we’re we’re doing that and I think that display at N.P.R. Is a flash all over TV This is not something that young people are going to be like oh my god it’s so evil because six million lampshade, you know, I mean this is her. This is where young people’s heads are I mean he sees all throughout that the election there were two they were saying it was hate speech that they were safe build a wall and he, you know, when sports teams like foot high school football teams were planning to either if one team was black, or minority Mexican then start chanting that don’t White team was certain. Chanting down from, you know, I mean the kids are grown up in this and this multicultural and all. Where where they’re where they’re just treated as. Naive. Second Class I mean we’ve got different classes now I meet these don’t know why. Specially the White male and like the four our class citizen.

And in the hierarchy of our society.





So you have people young people are very open to this and I don’t think they have all the associations of, you know, the Holocaust that, particularly baby boomers have that this is very comber in terms of, or Jews.

So yeah I don’t think that the salute was negative at all. I mean it’s it’s like I mean these people cocking and saying oh my God it’s over. I said people complain.

I said they’re all like saying. This is the end of Trump’s campaign, you know, I mean he’s already elected, but there. Their whole argument is like the same thing. I mean Donald Trump to Bill. Sig heil salute rallies. So I mean he said it was a pledge, but I mean everybody’s throwing it up there straight, or right or, you know, so this is and they they made a whole media thing of it and then it went away and same thing with this. I mean. So you know

I don’t I don’t think that there’s anything negative about that. And the other thing is this video you did this great video showing me people cocking from Alex Jones and Paul Joseph Watson and Mike sort of it’s cocking out on this and saying oh my God this is it common people FBI which I’m so sick of this is stupidest thing and it’s not this is not his this is not like a little baby game where you can just call people federal informants are federal agents just based on nothing because they did something you disagree with and bring up how turf house perfume. There’s no house her post. Thing people come up to serve this is all you can just, you know, move out of how Turner was posting to her addresses a federal judge in sync go assassinate these people and he was doing it for four years before he was eventually arrested and what I think was he was hacked by fortune. Actually, you know, that you have fact. History will go down in history of Fortune and the amount of influence they have on our modern society is incredible, but sort of the hive mind of the Internet. I have a four chair. Now. But yeah no four Can’t hack to e-mails and saw all communications with federal federal and foreign, or federal agents that he was working as an informant sending that information they did that in 2008 and he was arrested in two thousand and nine for doing something that he’d been doing for years which is calling people federal judges and officials to be assassinated.

So, you know, I mean these people bring up how Turley say Well anybody who talks about race is just like house her and retarded, you know, Yeah it’s no it’s just total nonsense and it shows how non-serious he go are because the serious person does not throw around the act accusation that people are federal agents, you know, I have suspicions about certain people on the internet and I’ll say to myself or, you know, privately I’ll say, you know, these people could be, you know, as could be some suspicious guy on them, but I would never ever go out on the Internet and publicly say well I know that these people are federal agents because they’re saying something that, you know, is suspicious to me, you know, that this is not these are not serious people so I mean I’m a little bit shocking to have. Have third of it and Paul doesn’t watch incomes and just say well this. This is this is a FBI operation. If you thought you thought let me just come on that because he thought that, you know, basically Richard Spencer was going to public me going into cost sting operation, or like embezzlement for some to drag people into some violent acts, or something. It was just for the sake of accuracy and truth it was like it was only very few people did it. Richard just lifted the glass and even to have him held responsible for something like that as it is in itself retard I mean it was fun. I mean if he said we’re going over this video we’re going to beat not to death to be honest, but it’s like, you know, just for those who didn’t see it or, you know, didn’t hear any of that what they do is that they run with the mainstream media version of events and yet they’re sitting there being edgy and like talking down to the mainstream media is that it’s pathetic. It’s useless.





Andrew: Well it’s also like totally disingenuous bullshit. I mean I don’t think that these people actually believe that Richard Spencer is an FBI agent. I mean and sort of it went order and said like these people are going to you’re all going to prison and you’re going to go to prison if you’re involved with these people because the media. Said they’re not. I mean he did this he did this stream where he said this. You’re all going to prison. And this is to make people look great because the bottom line is they understand that this is what the direction that everything is going at in their audience will eventually, or quickly probably end up in our camp and they want to hold on to their ideas because, you know, I mean he’s got guerrilla my set the selling Watson. Superman vitality and grain force, you know, you need these products. William.

So, you know, I mean there is this is business, you know, that they want to keep their audience and so they’re attacking him and making people pay if they even go to these websites you could be arrested. They will round you up the house her. So I mean it’s simple sentences and they don’t actually.

When somebody says that there’s almost no chance. Are there apparently not jobs they actually only that I mean not that there are, you know, presumably that’s out there and people just say it because like well he said something I don’t agree with that. I mean there usually isn’t a.

Kind of retarded one of the points made which which I appreciate which I like there is this idea to buy, but counterculture about true kind of rebellion against the mainstream system right and the fact that many young people I would assume I mean it’s difficult because many of the counterculture movements and, you know, revolutionary movements in Suffolk up we’ve had have been very contrived, you know, very, very owned by various interests it’s also a way, of course, there are very own culture has been managed to be turned on it’s head right. As you said the day when for the kids in the sixty’s and they they turned their mind against their own parents against their own tradition and culture and all that kind of stuff so I understand that there’s reason to be wary of that, but at the same time that culture was kind of it was also it became popularized it was calm pushing it in a different way it was a top down one primarily in this case I think we’re seeing something that truly desisted itself is very afraid it is a true kind of expression of a counterculture just we don’t give a crap about any of those and anything that’s at that moment I would figure that some of these hopefully rebellious young spirits out there and teenagers and, you know, even those that are livid older they would kind of enjoy that to certain extent that they would be attracted to the very nature of the reaction of the mainstream in a way. Right yeah. No absolutely. This is what is what I said that I mean they’re presenting this is the ultimate, you know, cool hip thing. It is what that whole me is storm around. And around the N.P.R. I salute is that this is like, you know, it’s almost like you think they were doing it on purpose. The motive in cool I hope conspiracy now.

Yeah I know, but they they have no idea they have no idea what’s going on and they think they can just keep talking about the holocaust and their victims and everybody against them. Everybody wants to hurt them and they never did anything wrong again like they can just keep saying over and over again the going will just keep going along with it what they’re actually doing is sowing the image of the all right. As a revolutionary and cool, you know, hip. This is what I mean it is really I mean it is there’s no they’re not funny they just humorless Marsh to oblivion that the left has engaged in is just I mean, you know, I mean who are to be involved in something that has no humor. We’re soever the head writer no foreign a lot. I mean this whole thing with the safe spaces and he lining women and the blacks talking about.

You know they’re they’re so well crest and there’s always people against it. I mean it’s just it never ends of the whining noise it’s coming from the people I don’t think I mean nobody is attracted to that, you know, imploding in on itself and this is the hip thing. I mean, you know, there’s where this is where the cool kids are and we’re going to run with that we’re going to kind of I mean I know it’s kind of yes, you know, to some people who feel like going out on that one and ensuring risking something, or to the brim of whatever, but I mean to certain extent what else is there at this point? I mean our our civilization our world our thinking is is that this points so screwed up that the only thing you can do is to push this is for as you can it even in a way.





Which is meant to just kind of blow the lid off the whole thing of basically trying to both go in an opposite direction to it, but also kind of just making fun of it and not showing any respect, if you will, for the system for the structure as it’s as it’s been set up and to kind of halfway through start to come back peddle, or feel that oh my God no. Maybe we went too far at this point I I can understand maybe as you said why some older people feel that way, or the feels like comfortable for them, or something, but in terms of the younger people that they are concerned for them. This is I hope and I thought I hope to pursue this as being just hilarious. So many levels and something which truly is actually brought breaking those the shackles of everything just politically correct everything that we’re not supposed to do, or talk about, or say your think, or anything like that and I think just to kind of almost go over the top on that it is something that will come liberate people, you know, way it’s always about trailblazing right to to push the boundaries so far that people feel that there is like a room behind them to a certain extent like a book. I mean that’s how they changed our societies right they. They made things a little bit more extreme a bit more extreme and eventually they when they, you know, there were two steps forward one step back. Basically And so by the time they took one step back. I didn’t seem so bad, you know, now get first it was like shocking to have gay characters on TV right now they’re like pushing what pedophiles, or something. And so now trannies and doesn’t look that bad. I mean it is there’s all these layers to it and we have to push back on that now so I’m saying.


Yes viral, but no I mean Naziism is really like prepackaged revolutionary imagery because June was running the society of so much. They spent so much energy. Building this Naziism up all cement everything that they’re promoting right I mean they were already. So if you decide you hate the system then the magic thing is why it will work. Poppy not. I mean you have this revolutionary imagery already created prepackaged, you know, ready made of the Nazis and we present them in like sort of a tongue in cheek way I think happened at N.P.R.. I. And what I’m, you know, trying to do by mixing, you know, pictures of Hitler with enemy and so on.

You know I mean you’ve found something very powerful because they have put all this basically spiritual energy into this symbol of Hitler and the Nazis so you can to roll that back at them and it’s friendly powerful and, you know, I mean we harness that. And what I don’t want to thought about designer I mean because it’s almost like the weapon itself that they use against us. He’s also going to be potentially a thing that we can use to liberate ourselves with if you don’t we’re judo and whatever. Yeah and that’s what I said with these cowards who are talking about. Well there’s not there can be no Nazi The Nazis are not successful and there’s been no successful Nazi by well I mean, you know, I mean this situation we’re in and we have one example of people who go out with this situation successfully. There’s only one guy who ever did it. Exactly and, you know, I mean that’s the bottom right and everybody kind of knows that on some kind of, you know, I don’t print on a primal level every sort of aware of that, you know, just even with the way the Jews framed the Nazis. You have that you have that right. There’s a there’s no way to get around it. There’s no way to get around the Nazi issue of stupid you can’t because I mean there is this mean. Which I think is basically true and they’ll call you Nazis The modern life, but at the same time there’s a me of whatever you’re saying is basically going to be in the same. Ballpark not you, or you have to change your whole ideology. Because I mean you have not used them on one side and you wish international globalism on the other side. So you’re whatever you’re saying is going to be a whole lot closer Naziism that it’s going to be to do with international globalism, or less just want to be a cock and change your your beliefs, you know, like Harry Taylor is just refugee se to answer under the bus, or that you didn’t I don’t actually see, you know, you have to vet was I feel looking to that, but it’s, of course, it’s it’s sad. I mean I think it’s always very detrimental in these things happen and there’s love there’s there’s schisms and things like this and in a way without getting into the details of it you comp were salt in the wounds further. I think also one of the reasons why some of this happens is that it’s it’s birth pangs that’s kind of high seed any growth aspect you have cell division and dust kind of what we’re seeing the old tried has never been super, you know, centralized in organizes all these different cells that are doing, you know, weight kind of their own thing.





But many push in the same direction, or similar direction we agree on many things, but maybe not on everything all the time one hundred percent and they’re kind of it’s been a benefit to that to certain extent and I just hope that, you know, people kind of I mean let’s think about. I mean two weeks from now. I bet it is like people are going to remember this, you know, this was the intention Spanish super short people don’t care would be another controversy to and did maybe just tomorrow even, you know, and then that will be it. And as you said the name have gotten out the name recognition has increased and, you know. However, we view that there’s no such thing is as bad publicity. That’s what it boils down to I think and, you know, I mean so what I was going to say the good what were the consequences of this, you know, whether caught us looking people caught our record and I said actually OK. Shows and on my website of my side, but it’s the greatest comment I saw all somebody’s off a comment on You Tube was somebody whining about Richard Spencer. Somebody said Richard Spencer hit the gas, you know, what your cock so obvious if you did.

So yeah I know I mean riches for good. I’m I’m glad that, you know, sort of bench and and Watson are going down because, you know, I was looking around for sort of a mile. I know, you know, a lot of was making videos about Milo and I was trying to usurp us and your means are to take our brand and say that it was about cultural libertarianism and he got there saying Praise tech and, you know, all of our our means he’s trying to use and then say well, but it’s actually it’s about defending Israel. I mean he got up there and said that. And it’s not really about race it’s about Western supremacy.

Western culture and all races working together, you know, so I mean that’s gone. This guy disappeared. Probably, you know. Whatever having him gone and now we have these other guys gone. I mean your tail, or whatever. I mean he can go. This guy. I mean, you know, what is what has he done to work. I don’t with salt. Jerry Taylor, you know, he’s a he’s been around a long time. Whatever whatever. But he’s gone. OK fine by. The very same car and, you know, I talked to Richard Spencer the other night on a farm, you know, I hadn’t got along him, but I said, you know, I’m I’m standing in solid solidarity with you on this and I will. I think we need to, you know, have a real good conversation with Richard Spencer the other night I said we know, you know, bring come together here because we’ve got. We got now we need to move into the next stage of the saying in yet you ask. However, long. Golly rambling answers your questions, but damn high energy.

Yes So the next phase. I mean I think there is no such thing as being too ambitious. We need to be ready and twenty twenty four to elect an actual Hitler like go liberal, or like somebody who is talking aggressively and openly about the Jews welcomed me Tempus warm them up to this concept doesn’t have the yeah I mean we are warmed up. We already have a concept where we are people and there is an other there are all these others the Mexicans are another the blacks, or other the Muslims, or other and yes I have to say whether one more, or there were more I know of right there that guy with the hook nose is controlling all your media and your banks and telling your boys to cut their penises off, you know, I mean it’s very easy once you have the idea of in-group outgroup to point to the Jews as a group that needs to be removed from society and I believe, you know, we have eight years now. I mean presume I don’t think it will any chance. I mean unless you guys are it’s assassinate, or something. I don’t think that a couple getting reelected. So the four years is going to be given now is going to be enough for people like this is awesome. Let’s do it again. Yes right right. And I mean he’s going to clean up these illegal immigrants so they won’t be right. You’re going to have just I mean because what he’s going to be able to do in the next four years as far as just materially as far as like the amount of money people are making and with that they can work and they can pay for their house excited about as I have to say I was thinking about the other day and has this like I have I was filled with the positive positive emotion, you know, like something, you know, even just for the sake of this can be fun to see this happening and things change and, of course, I hope he follows through out there’s no, you know, issues along the way, or whatever, but I’m. Looking forward to it is going to be fun, you know?





Andrew: it’s just fun like there’s an excitement in the air, you know, and I go it’s like a lecture, you know, I mean every time, you know, I just think about it is bizarre. It’s kind of like this is going to make, you know, ways like it is coming in joke, you know, way and that’s what makes it so great, you know, I mean nobody

I don’t think anybody really is now, you know, it’s just it’s it’s really a whole new world is opened up and, you know, but as far as what we need to do we need to keep pushing it and we need to make it so this becomes about Jews I mean everything I am all about.

Is you say, you know, you need to be the central issue. Ulenspiegel and figure out a way to get rid of them.

You know I mean give me go to Israel where they want to go to so they’re not in our country where every people they deserve their own country and it will be much better and more peaceful that way. Right. And I mean I mean you can talk about his nationalism for everybody, but it’s like well they already have don’t think everybody has and that’s why I’m saying it’s like you have to go there now race, you know, I mean this is what this is about self-determination and, you know, nationalism for everybody and like well I’m at a point of saying that is because they have a race has their own nations. They all do.

Really only ones and I guess Tibetans Buddhists say don’t, or them, you know, I mean I guess as a small have occurred occurred, you know, even the young he’s a veteran I mean we know that there’s tribal conflict and there is one of there is not a. Fighting, but ya know I get your point I get your point. Yeah I mean overall in general. Everybody is good.

So yeah I mean and all in everything. I do think that we played a major role in the election. I don’t know what happened because I mean just I mean to me they were everywhere because they were just, you know, the world that we were creating and all the.

This stuff with well I mean the cartoons and so on, but then in those fake ads for what was your daughter’s scent got a dime in your daughter’s for to die for Hillary was there was that there was that was for you it for her, or now one of the draft draft, or proper daughters was, you know, right.

Yeah no I mean there were so many of these things that were all over the Internet and the whole thing, but the most important thing is the all right good for Donald Trump would make an cool and make Well I mean he already was cool. I mean he’s very easy guy to make into a mean and everything he said basically gave me what, you know, that the energy that we created online of this guy is like the best. Guy ever. Yeah it was, you know, my horse I mean this was so interesting too that even even people that seemingly didn’t agree.

Everyone rallied rally behind it which shows whether what a leader can do right. It’s amazing.

Yeah, you know, absolutely I mean this is what this is what a leader. I mean this is what people want. Yeah they look a guy who is like well yeah nice guys win, or some shit, you know, and I don’t know I mean there’s figures you see I mean you’re like well yeah that guy’s in charge is whoever he says. So I mean we don’t know basic like trival the guy the air raid. It’s inability to deal with situations and you say war is forward and it feels good to say about about somebody to call somebody a leader and say I’m following this person. Yeah I mean now now that he actually is a president we’ve probably got the back off that a little bit at least, you know, our movement because certain. Well there’s a simplicity that I think we were lacking in life we have like this, you know, convoluted like cycles logical, you know, kind of mumbo jumbo level to everything and it’s like, you know, everything is sort of, you know, subjective and there’s no real reality your real truth there’s no we don’t know we have to debate these issues, or whatever and it’s just like here is something which is just kind of straight forward finally, you know, not that I think people lack of that they just want that like base drive as is and for kind of the same issues with the fact that, you know, women have a problem primordial drives that needs to be fulfilled. Otherwise like weird things happen with a man. So it’s like those issues I think are going to start coming back into the into the kind of the situation, but ever before we, you know, can wrap things up here, but this time. What else do you think we should do in terms of you. So back off a little bit. Explain that a little bit more what you mean by that.





Andrew: Well I mean we’re going to have to be critical.

Now that he’s got office. I think, you know, I mean we can’t. If, you know, it’s it’s a hard thing for me. Coming up with a narrative around him, but I think we do have to be just not hundred percent behind everything that he does and make sure that we can push him as far as we’re able to do all these things we want to do and, you know, I think there are a lot of these issues he’s pretty much lined up with us. Anyways so, you know, we’re not going to have to like outright attack him, but we do need to be. You need to be aware and critical of the citizens he’s making, you know, I’m not I don’t have a problem calling out with a few that he appointed to the treasury secretary, you know, I mean it’s not surprising to me especially that he would appoint Judith treasury secretary specially.

You know I think he does feel like yes that’s some Jews involved just for safety. But yeah I mean we can be we can be critical of him, but I think we need to be critical of him in this in the all right. I think we go because we need not the end goal we are pushing for something that’s it’s pretty far beyond what he’s offering, you know, I don’t know how far beyond if he’s really going to like it, or all Muslims, you know, but I mean what our end goal is, you know, a White White nation White for White people and we just got to keep pushing and pushing for that. And as much as he winds up with that agenda which he does in a lot of ways as far as special as far as the early stages building the Wall Gang read of the Mexican getting rid of the Muslims and so on, you know, I mean this is going very much in the right direction, but we can’t forget that our goal is something beyond the very good. Well there is for middle comes website support and would be CARNEY If you can think of him not today under a lot of fun having you here. Great to talk to spend some more time with you and ensure on some of these ideas we should do it if we do it again in the future in the meantime, of course, keep up the good work and thanks once again for a come home to share with us. Thank you. Before we in forty days just want to say a special thanks to all our members out there for your support for listening and for a believing in what we do also want to alert you to the fact that we have course, or we can hear your show this Saturday the third and then on Sunday the fourth we’re going to do some elite referendum cover. It is going to be exciting. We’re going to invite some people from elite from the alliance for peace and freedom and also a couple of guys a tally Americans out of the force no way of our brand in Arizona. So well stay tuned for that and then on the following Tuesday in the six that we’re going to live stream the talk that’s Richard Spencer is doing at Texas A and M. What a buzz around out there that might be fun for you to see so let me thank you need to the websites, or that will have more ads and read I stopped TV slash live and red eyes members dot com slash live. Thank you so much for listening. Ladies and gentlemen have a great rest of your day where ever you are we will see you soon take care.












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[In these two latest videos Ramzpaul explains why he has dropped his support for the Alt-Right “label” after Richard Spencer failed to disavow the movement’s “Nazi” element following the NPI Conference, where some attendees gave “sieg heils” when Spencer raised his glass and declared loudly, “Hail Trump! Hail our people! Hail Victory!”  


Although Ramzpaul makes many good points on some side issues I think he’s making a mountain out of a molehill out of this whole incident by declaring the Alt-Right’s “brand” toxic because of it.


More seriously though, is Ramzpaul’s belief that the website, “The Daily Stormer” which has recently claimed to be Alt-Right, is in fact fake opposition, funded by the ADL.


But then in that case, what about Amren, which Ramzpaul does support, and its leader, Jared Taylor, who attended the conference and is openly pro-jew? The very people whose organizations are behind our on-going destruction! Is Amren also fake opposition, funded by the ADL, Ramzpaul? —  KATANA]










Alt-Right — RIP




“Sieg Heiling”


Published on Nov 23 and 19, 2016








Published on Nov 23, 2016


Donald Trump disavows the Alt Right after Roman salutes are featured at the NPI conference.

After NPI’s Roman Salutes,  President elect Trump was forced to disavow the Alt Right. Most normal people can support the Alt Right ideas of self-determination, protection of borders, good trade deals, America First, etc. But normal people can’t support anything that is associated with Nazism.

In my discussions with Brietbart I explained the tension between the Alt Right versus the 14/88 crowd. In general, Breitbart was sympathetic to the ideas of the Alt Right as I described them.

However, they obviously did not support the 14/88 notion of the Alt Right.

Eventually, the 14/88 crowd won this battle once Richard Spencer was associated with Nazism. Of course, I don’t think Richard is a Nazi. But it does not matter at this point. Whenever the Alt Right is discussed in the media, they will show the Roman Salute clip over and over. And as Richard is the self proclaimed leader of the Alt Right, the brand is now impossible to rehabilitate.

But it really doesn’t matter at this point. The Alt Right was a phenomenon that helped launch Trump into the White House. Now that he has been elected, there is no need for the “alternative” label. We are now the Trump Right.







Alt-Right — RIP








Hey guys. First of all I’m still in the process of moving back home. I don’t know my final location, but, so I don’t have my camera equipment. But I thought I had to discuss this whole thing that blew-up with Richard Spencer and the NPI and the Alt-Right. And, first of all what was reported was outrageous. Because supposedly Richard said that he asked the question, “Are Jews even human?” He didn’t ask that and in his speech he said, “Are Republican strategists even human?”. It was a joke! He wasn’t talking about Jews. So, CNN had lied there. And there’s supposedly the, you know, the Roman salute that happened. All Richard did was he had a glass and did a toast, “Hail Trump!” at the end. Big deal! We say “Hail To the Chief” for the president. It shouldn’t be that big of an issue. But unfortunately, we have some people that intentionally got up and did the Roman salute, a couple times, I guess there before and they did that and tweeted it.



[Image] Richard Spencer raising his glass while announcing, “Hail Trump! Hail our people! Hail Victory!” at the NPI Conference 2016.


And yeah, at that point, Donald Trump had to disavow the Alt-Right. Because, you can’t hang on to something that’s Nazi. You just can’t! Because Naziism, it was seventy years ago. It’s just a brand that doesn’t translate well. It scares people. And if you’re going to do a seig heil, it’s over! It’s really over! And so, the truth, it doesn’t really matter what happened with NPI and with Richard Spencer. It’s a perception. And whenever they think about the Alt-Right now, people are going to think about the Romans salute! [laughing] And I won’t even do it now otherwise they’ll use my image.



[Image] “Hands up” at the NPI Conference 2016.


And yeah, that’s not fair, but politics is not fair. So now the Alt-Right brand is damaged. It’s associated with Naziism. And normal Americans aren’t going to support that. Which is a shame, but it’s really OK, you know. Why am I saying it’s OK? For a period of time before Trump got elected, the Alt-Right really grew. And part of the reason — I’m a little of the reason, just hang on — I did an interview with Milo and I spoke to him briefly. He’d use a lot of my quotes with Breitbart when they talk about, “What is the Alt-Right?” And I did some also some articles for “Return of the Kings”, some videos. And I try to explain what the Alt-Right is. It’s not traditional conservatism, which is about low taxes and open borders, but it’s also not 14/88, about neo-Nazis and all that shit! It’s about having an identity. That all people, jews, White people, Chinese — we all have an identity and we all have the right to live and of self-determination. That’s a core.


There’s other issues too with trade and so forth, but that was basically the core. It’s not like this Nazi hate ideology! And, you know, what? Most people can really get on to that. Most people are like:

Yeah, I’m tired of political correctness. If other groups have identity, why can’t we? Why can’t we all have nationalism?


And it really resonates with people.


And it did with Breitbart. And I know, because Milo published it and Steve Bannon saw that. And that’s why Steve Bannon, Trump’s Chief of Staff now, was on board with the Alt-Right. Because it’s something you can defend! But what happened is, immediately the enemy primarily and I’ll say it, I’ve said this before. I think Daily Stormer, to be honest, is a fake opposition. I think is funded by the ADL. And I’m not going to get into debates, why. I think that, I really do. And initially this Daily Stormer, they were opposed to the Alt-Right. But when they saw that it was getting on, they changed their strategy. And I said “they”, because I don’t think it’s just Andrew Anglin [laughing] that is in charge of it. I’ve heard his interviews. I think there’s a whole group that works on that website. And they decided to repurpose it, or try to co-opt the Alt-Right, to say:

Hey! The Alt-Right is all about Naziism, of 14/88”.


And they were so good at that, they were basically able to say:

Hey! 14/88 and Naziism, that is the core of the Alt-Right, and the rest of you are trying to co-opt what we’re doing!


Which was nonsense. But that was their strategy. And, but there was a lot of tension there between it. But still the ones that looked at the Alt-Right is not being Naziism, but being [about] identity, about being nationalism, were able to win the day initially up to the election. Then right after the election, … Yeah, finally because of the Richard Spencer thing that blew apart, now it is associated with Naziism!


But it’s OK! It doesn’t matter. It would be kind of like you’re playing a basketball game and you’re winning by two points, at the last second the guy shoots it, and it’s a three point shot. And you go, “Oh no! We lost!” But no, the game ended before the three pointer went in! And that’s kind of what happened.


We kind of won. We won, we got Trump in! So that’s fine.

So, I no longer identify as Alt-Right, just because, there’s no way of rehabilitating that whole image of what the Alt-Right is. It’s, I mean, good for Daily Stormer, I guess. They got it associated with Nazism and they’ve kind of quit that now. They’re trying to associate Republicanism with Nazism! [laughing] That’s their new strategy. Good luck with that!



[Image] The Daily Stormer, “America’s #1 Most-Trusted Republican News Source”.


That’s OK, because I want to look at the Alt-Right now instead of it just being the Right. There’s no need to have the “Alt” label anymore.

We have Donald Trump. People like me that support borders, that support immigration controls, that are opposed to globalism and free trade, we have our man in office now. We don’t need to call ourselves, “Alt-Right”.


So, I’ve given up the label, but I still support self-determination and nationalism for all! I’ll talk to you guys later.
















Published on Nov 29, 2016


A response to Richard Spencer’s video addressed to me:



Richard Spencer created a video (see link above) that addressed me concerning many topics concerning the Alt Right. This is my video response to cover some of the common questions that people have raised that include:


1. What is Nazism

2. Punching to the Right

3. Disavowing

4. Cucking

5. Brand identity

6. Boundaries needed for a movement


From the list above, #6 is key. The idea that you can have a movement that has NO boundaries is insane. Yet, because some people have been fooled with the mantra “never punch to the right” and “never disavow” we now have the Alt Right brand associated with Hollywood Nazis. And as the mainstream media looks at Richard Spencer as the leader of the Alt Right, the fact that he won’t explicitly disavow Nazism is fatal to the movement.  The serious thinkers have been replaced with Hal Turner and Andrew Anglin types.


I think Richard is intelligent and quite eloquent. But I fear his message will be muted and he will become the new David Duke for his generation – pulled out every 4 years by the media to try to discredit the politician he endorses.


I recommend that Spencer should explicitly disavow that the Alt Right has any connection with Nazism. If he refuses to do so, the Alt Right brand will remain toxic and attract only the kook element.



The Alt-Right and Boundaries





 [11:42 min]


All right. This is going to be my last video about the “Richard Spencer, sieg heil” case.


But I want to do some clarification. And is going to be a little bit more in depth, because there’s a lot of questions about, you know, what is a Nazi, is it National Socialism, is it Hitler, is something new? What’s a Hollywood Nazi? And there’s a lot of ideas like:


Hey dude, you can never punch right! Never punch right!” or, “Never disavow, don’t disavow! The left doesn’t do that!” or, “They’re going to call you a Nazi anyway, so why do you fight it?


So, there’s all these things I just want to discuss a little bit.


Part of the problem whenever the word “Nazi” is thrown out, is like, “What’s really meant by that term?” Because it’s really so ill defined now. And, so I thought it was good to take a step back, you know, to understand there’s basically three categories that sort of fit the word “Nazi”.


The first one is National Socialism. National Socialism is not a political party. It’s a ideology. It’s an economic system, sort of like Socialism is, or Marxism. You know, for example, you can have Marxists, but there’s a lot of different political parties that may adopt Marxism, the same way with National Socialism. And National Socialism is really not about concentration camps, the Holocaust, jews. No! It’s an economic policy. It’s, for example, if you believe in single payer health care. That was a National Socialist policy. Protecting the environment was very important to the National Socialists. Protecting the workers through good trade deals. That was National Socialist. That’s all it is, and that they don’t really have any symbols as an ideology, like Capitalism, or Communism.


Then, in the 30’s, 1933 to 1945, just twelve years, just twelve years! That’s all it was in Germany. You had a political party that advocated National Socialism. And they were called the National Socialist German Workers’ Party. What we now know as the Nazis. Adolf Hitler and all that. And as a political party, like the Republicans and the Democrats, you had the National Socialist German Workers’ Party. And the Republicans, they have the elephant as their kind of symbol, the Democrats has a donkey. Well, the National Socialist German Workers’ Party had the swastika. That was it! It didn’t have anything to do with the National Socialism ideology. It had to do with that specific political party. And they also used the Roman salute, which became the Nazis salute, and so forth. And it was headed by Adolf Hitler.


That was in a sense the Nazi that ended in one 1945. And it was over! It was specifically German. So where is National Socialism, the economic policy, or the ideology, you could export to various countries — even Hitler thought that. But National Socialism German Workers Party, it makes absolutely no sense to export, because it’s just for Germans! So using a swastika elsewhere, especially like the Slavic areas, is stupid! It makes no sense! That party is dead. So the Nazis the real Nazis are all gone. They don’t exist anymore.


But we have this thing called, “neo-Nazis”. And neo-Nazis, they’ve really started after WW II and almost all of them, like, I posted the link before, have been false flag, heavily Jewish funded, or government funded organizations. And you can ask, “Why would they want to fund something like that?” Well, it’s to discredit nationalist organizations. Because after the war the National Socialist German Workers Party, the Nazis, were really demonized and that’s part of the propaganda. And some of it was justified, some probably wasn’t. But that’s not up for debate. What happened is they were made out to be the devil and it’s got all the worse. So they’re looked at, like Satan now! The worst thing imaginable. So what happened, these groups, they fund these neo-Nazis and then the neo-Nazis — and then this happened through the 70’s and the Illinois Nazis, headed by a Jewish guy, in the 90’s there was a guy named David Wolf something, that was a famous Nazi, he was fake, a Jew.


Recently we had Hal Turner, the big Nazi, he turned out to be a Federal informant, and you have groups like Daily Stormer, that I believe are fake and they are doing the same thing. And what they’re, … The goal of the neo-Nazis are is to attach themselves — because they know they’re toxic and 99.9% of people are opposed to them — they attach themselves to a movement they want to discredit. And, for example, originally that the Daily Stormer they attach themselves to Donald Trump and it’s not because they like Donald Trump, it’s because they wanted to discredit him. So the mainstream media can say:

Look at these evil Nazis are supporting Donald Trump! Do you want to support someone that’s supported by Nazis?


See, that was the psychology they were using. And it is pretty effective. And that happened with the Alt-Right too, the Daily Stormer was originally opposed to the Alt-Right, but when they saw it was gaining momentum, they decided to try to cut it off, by saying:

No! No! The Alt-Right, it’s all about Nazis! If you’re not a Nazi you’re Alt-Right!


They started to push that. Now they’re trying to tie it to Republicanism.


But the goal of neo-Nazis is just to discredit normal identity nationalist movements. And not to say, … I’m sure some people are very sincere. There are some sincere neo-Nazis, but in general Neo Naziism has nothing to do with the original National Socialism. I mean, if you go to sites like the Daily Stormer, they don’t really talk about the ideology of National Socialism, or the economic policies, they say the word “kike” over and over. But the original National Socialism wasn’t about saying, “kike, kike, kike, kike, kike, kike!” It had to do with something deeper. And it has nothing to do with the old Nazis of Adolf Hitler. They just use the same symbols, but it is really not related at all.


So, you have the three different groups. You have national socialism, which is the ideology. You have the National Socialist German Workers’ Party that was in Germany and then you have these Hollywood neo-Nazis that are mostly fake!


One of the things that just bugs me, it’s so frustrating! You hear this all the time is, like, “Dude! Never punched to the right!” Or, “Never disavow!” I mean, that is just retarded! It really is! [laughing]


Because, just think about it logically, right! If you can never punch to the Right, which means never criticize someone to the supposed right of you. That is the most extreme positions are beyond criticism! Right, just think of a thought experiment, the most the extreme Right-wing stereotypical position. I don’t know, anyone that doesn’t have blue eyes or blonde hair should be put to death! ! That’s pretty extreme! And so, anyone trying to criticize it, you behave:

Dude! Dude! Don’t push to the right! Don’t push to the right!


You see how stupid that is? And the guy has a psycho position could say:

But why? You believe people with brown eyes should be able to live? What are you, a cuck? Cuck, cuck!


See, this is just insane!


What you need to do as any organization is have a circle, a boundary. Yet, you can cuck, and what does cucky means, is you have your principles and you compromise your principles to try to appease the left. God knows, the mainstream Republicans have done that so much they have cucked on that. They’ve taken their principles, they betrayed them. That is wrong. That is cucking! But holding to your principles is not cucking! So you don’t have to support these neo-Nazi, Hollywood Nazi types, otherwise you’re a cuck. In effect if you don’t draw the boundary, you’re screwed. Because they’re going to taint your brand, which we saw with what happened in the Alt-Right.


So you do need to punch right when needed.


Now, the Left, they will punch right, left, if they need to, if they’re pressed on it by the Press. But they usually aren’t. That’s why they usually don’t punch left. But if they were pushed on it, they would. You know they would! And, for example, the whole idea too, that:

Hey they’re going to call you Nazis, anyway, so you might as well just be a Nazi”.


That’s another argument, I hear. Well, again that is stupid! And I use an analogy. There’s the pick up artist community, of guys that try to seduce women, or whatever, into bed. I’m not saying that I agree with it or disagree with it, but the feminists always call them rapists! “Rapists! You’re a rapist!” Which is not, which is absurd! They are not rapists. They try to charge people. That’s not the same thing as rape. But should, by that logic, should they say:

Well, hey, these feminists are going to call us rapists anyway, so we should self identify as a rapist!


That’s stupid! No you don’t want to do that! It is the same thing with this “agree and amplify”. That could be a good strategy at times, but not like someone accuses you of being a child molester of an eight year old girl. You don’t want to “agree and amplify” and say:

No! No! No! You’ve got that wrong! I rape four year olds!


So that’s just dumb! You’ve got to have some maturity with this. So, as an organization including the Alt-Right, or whatever organization you have, you got to exclude people on the left, or the right. If you don’t exclude anyone on the right, then you’re just going to be, you’re going to lose it! Because the clowns are going to take over and define your movement. That’s what has happened in the Alt-Right.


Now, the sad thing is, I don’t disavow Richard Spencer, because — I’ll find this interview and I’ll link to it. He did after the conference and — the man really is brilliant. He’s eloquent. He has really interesting things to say. But, what’s really sad, is that is not going to be heard anymore because of his refusal to disavow these Nazi types. And it’s not that hard to say, to disavow. And, you know, he, I think he said:

It has bad optics, but I’m not going to disavow, or anything like that.


Well, if you don’t do that, then you’re always going to be associated with Nazis. And you could say:

Well, I don’t care they could all be associated with Nazis”.


But 99.9% of the populace does care, and they won’t take your message seriously. And every time you’re introduced, you’re going to be introduced as a Nazi sympathizer with the “sieg heiling”. And again this has nothing to do with Naziism back in the 30’s. I’m talking about this Hollywood neo-Nazi, Daily Stormer version. You’re always going to be tainted with that, and no one is going to take you seriously.


And it causes also problems for the people that attended the convention. I kind of feel sorry for them, because whenever you’re attending convention you assume there’s going to be certain protocols. I’ve spoken at Amren, American Renaissance, and one of the things I’m confident of, is Jared Taylor is never going to turn [it] into this “sieg heil” fest. Because it would be embarrassing, that would taint me. And the same thing with the people that spoke at this now, they’re all have this on their hands and they have to say:

Hey! I didn’t have anything to do with this!


So, you’ve got to really think what you’re doing and look at the image of your brand, and you’ve got to have a brand that will appeal to people.



[Image] “Exuberant” attendees going all Roman on us. Actually the guy on the left kind of looks like Ramzpaul!


Now, White identity, self-determination, really all those things are winning points. Trade, the whole idea of the Alt-Right really sells to people. But once you mix into it the “sieg heiling” you just lose it! You just lose it.

So, what Richard, I wish he would have said is:

Hey, I gave a speech, some people, four, or five people did this ‘sieg heil’. We can’t control what people do. I do not approve of this. We are not a Nazi organization. We disavow any Nazi influence, that’s not we’re what we’re about.

And if you just said that, it would have ended it. Because people, yeah the Leftist still would have been mad, but who who gives a shit about them, but normal people would have looked at it and said:

Yeah, well that makes sense, you know, you can’t control what your audience does. He disavowed the people who did that sort of thing, that sort of behavior.

That’s the end of it. But if you don’t disavow it, you just try to play the game, like:

It was just, they’re just trying to have fun, it’s bad optics”.

People are not going to buy it.

So, I think that is the last thing I’m going to to say on the same subject.

Talk to you guys later.












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[In this 50 minute speech (including Q & A) at the Nov, 2016 NPI Conference, Prof. Kevin MacDonald discusses the long term role of organised jewry in pushing multiracialism, multiculturalism in the United States and the West. Jewish money power is at the forefront of financing both the Democrat Party and the Republican Party and steering their respective policies towards jewish goals, despite growing grassroots opposition, especially towards Israel and its murderous apartheid policy towards the Palestinians. MacDonald also discusses how organized jewry is notorious for opposing free speech related to race, ethnicity and immigration, in other words, anything that interferes with the jewish goal of destroying homogenous White societies  —  KATANA.]







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Prof. Kevin MacDonald gives an informative talk at NPI 2016 in Washington D.C. about organized Jewish influence. Q & A follows the talk.





Kevin MacDonald


NPI 2016 Conference


Published on Nov 22, 2016








Richard Spencer: I hope our next speaker won’t be insulted by the brevity of the introduction that I’m about to give.


There is no man on the planet who was done more for the understanding of the pole around which the world revolves than Kevin MacDonald! [audience applauds]


Welcome! They know who you are.


Kevin MacDonald [Kmac]: They know, oh, OK.


All right. It’s great to be here after such an exciting, inspiring victory for Donald Trump and I mean, I don’t think anybody really expected it, you know, watching that movie that Richard showed tonight, you know, he could be a hero of our people. And I think that’s what we would all hope and it could happen. I really do think it’s going to happen.


But tonight I’m going to talk about Jews. [audience erupts in laughter]


[Kmac laughing] it’s not that I relish doing this, but somebody’s got to do it! And it’s definitely a subject that should be addressed. The best that we can fairly, factually and realize, we’re not talking about all Jews. We’re talking about activist Jews, we are talking about the main thrust of the organized Jewish community, which is pretty easy to figure out.



[Image] Edward Alsworth Ross (December 12, 1866 – July 22, 1951) was an American sociologist, one of first sociologists who pursued a comprehensive sociological theory. Regarded as a founder of sociology in the United States, he believed that the purpose of sociology was to bring about social reform, solving problems in human society. 

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[Bradley R. Smith, who passed away on February 18, 2016, the very day of his 86th birthday, is most well know for his relentless work in spreading public awareness of the “Holocaust” issue and revisionism.  It all started in 1979, in a lobby of a hotel in Los Angeles, when he was handed a leaflet written by Robert Faurisson, called “The ‘Problem of the Gas Chambers’”.


This chance encounter with revisionist material dramatically changed his life when he decided to devote himself to, “countering the taboo against dissident views on this emotion-charged issue”.


In 1987 he founded, “The Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust” – CODOH. In the mid 1980s he also circulated a newsletter called “Prima Facie”, aimed at journalists and editors that focused on cultism, suppression of free inquiry and censorship on the Holocaust issue.


The April/May1990 edition of “Prima Facie” became the very first of a still continuing, mostly monthly, newsletter called, “Smith’s Report” that informs readers about CODOH, its impact, and includes news and commentary items. As part of his activities to spread debate about the “Holocaust” Bradley was a guest on some 400 radio talk shows and news broadcasts, as well as appearing on nationwide television.


It is about his sometimes successful, sometime not, attempts to appear on radio talk shows that this very first, typewritten, edition of “Smith’s Report” mainly describes. It is reproduced here in full, along with supporting images. What shines through in his writing is his plain talking honesty and patience, all combined with his droll sense of humor — KATANA.


Note: For a fuller biography of Bradley Smith please see here: http://www.revisionists.com/revisionists/smith.html]





Bradley Smith’s


Smith’s Report


# 1






Bradley R. Smith


P.O. Box 3267 Visalia CA 93278

(209) 627 8757

April/ May 1990



Dear Revisionist Friend:


This is the first issue of a much promised newsletter that I’ll send to you without charge every couple months so long as you express some interest in receiving it.


If it seems to you that you haven’t heard from me for a long time, it’s probably true. Last summer I came down with a pneumonia that for three months left me unable to do more than a fraction of the work that needed doing. Then, along in October when I was at last coming out of it, our landlord put the house we were renting up for sale and we had to find a new place to live. We couldn’t find a suitable place in southern California that I could afford, so toward the end of November I moved my family, my office, and our storage to a rented house in Visalia, a small town in the San Joaquin Valley some 160 miles north of Los Angeles. I spent the next ten weeks working on setting up a speaking tour for Pennsylvania, did the tour and returned the first week in March.



[Image] The city of Visalia is located in the fields of the San Joaquin Valley just below the Sierra Nevada Mountains, California.


In any event, here I am in our new rented house in Visalia writing this letter to you. My apologies for all the unanswered correspondence, unfilled orders and general lack of communication during the last months. I’m pretty sure I’ll be better at everything this year than I was last.





5 January: Telephone interview on WSPD radio in Toledo OH. Davy Macy hosting. Afterwards I received a note from his producer saying: “It was an interesting conversation, to say the least.


I have a C-60 cassette of the program.



[Image] WSPD Radio Toledo, Ohio.


8 January: Telephone interview over WTKN radio in St. Petersburg FL. Hosted by Jay Marvin at the St. Petersburg fairgrounds, complete with a pair of alleged survivors on hand. A carnival atmosphere, not inappropriately. I’d done an interview once before with this man and didn’t remember him being so hostile. His tack this day was to insist that since his “survivors” had “been there” and I hadn’t, they knew what they were talking about and I didn’t.



[Image] Marvin Jay Cohen, better known by his broadcast name of Jay Marvin is a retired American liberal radio talk show host and writer. Marvin’s a radio lifer who has spit vitriol and leftist politics into countless microphones in cities and towns across the country for nearly three decades. He earned himself the sobriquet “the man you love to hate.” He ranted, he shouted, he was mean. His favorite thing to call listeners was “brain stem.” 


It was a frustrating interview with a loud-mouthed hostile host.


There is a C-90 cassette available.

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[Here is an English translation of “The Nuremberg Laws” chart of 1935. I believe the Nuremberg Laws  will prove to be a very useful model in the future in deciding who can live White countries and under what conditions. The laws would apply not only to jews but also other non-Whites —  KATANA.]












The Nuremberg Laws


Chart in English



 Here’s an extract from the post  Book – The Myth of German Villainy – Part 12 – The Nazis and the Zionists Actually Work Together …  on The Nuremberg Laws. 

The Nuremberg Laws — 1935


Meanwhile, Hitler proceeded with his program to reduce the influence and control of Jews in Germany and to marginalize them as a race. The Nuremberg Laws, which changed the legal status of Jews in Germany, became the law of the land on September 15, 1935 soon after they were presented to the German people in a Speech by Hitler at the annual Nazi Nuremberg Rally.



[Add. Image (click to enlarge) — Chart with the title, “Die Nurnberger Gesetze” (Nuremberg Race Laws). Complex chart used to aid Germans in understanding the Nuremberg Race Laws. White circles represent Aryan Germans, black circles represent Jews, and partially shaded circles represent “mixed raced” individuals.]


The Nuremberg Laws consisted of two laws; (1) “The Law of the Reich Citizen,” and (2) “The Law for the Protection of German Blood and German Honor.”


The first law stripped Jews of their German citizenship and made them “subjects of the Reich,” that is, legal residents in Germany, but not citizens. Only those with German blood could be citizens of the Reich.


The second law forbade marriage or sexual relations between Jews and those of German blood, or even the employment of German women (under age 45) in Jewish households. The stated purpose of the law was to protect the purity of German blood, which was deemed necessary to preserve the German race.



[Add. Image — A Hitler Youth instructor explains the Nuremberg racial purity laws to a class of teenaged boys.]


Jews were no longer allowed to vote or to hold public office since they were no longer citizens. Their movements and activities inside Germany were restricted, and a large red J was stamped on their passports. The Nuremberg laws caused Jews to want to leave Germany for friendlier shores, which is precisely what Germany wanted them to do. It should be pointed out, however, that the Jews were never actually forced to leave Germany until well after World War II began, and a great many Jews remained in Germany, unmolested, throughout the war.



[Add. Image (click to enlarge) —  “The Nuremberg Laws”, in English.]


These laws had the unexpected result of generating a lot of confusion and heated debate among Nazi bureaucrats as to how a Jew should be defined because there were a great many people with mixed blood. The Nazis settled on defining a “full Jew” as a person with three Jewish grandparents. A mixed Jew or Mischlinge was defined in two degrees.


The first degree Mischlinge had two Jewish grandparents, while the second degree Mischlinge had only one grandparent. Mischlinges who practiced Judaism were considered full Jews. Full Jews were subject to the full extent of the law, while Mischlings were subjected to the law in lesser degrees, depending on their degree of Jewishness. Mischling civil servants as well those in some other jobs were allowed to stay on.













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[Part 12]


[Benton Bradberry’s 2012 book, “The Myth of German Villainy” is a  superb, must-read, revisionist look at how the German people have been systematically, relentlessly and most importantly, unjustly vilified as the arch criminal of the 20th century. Bradberry sets out, cooly and calmly as befits a former US-Navy officer and pilot, to show why and how the German people have been falsely accused of massive crimes and that their chief  accuser and tormenter, organized jewry is in fact the real party guilty of monstrous crimes against Germans and the rest of the world.

In Part 12, the myth of jews having to “flee” for their lives from Germany when the National Socialists took power is debunked. In fact, NS officials and jewish groups worked as partners in assisting jews leave Germany for Palestine through the officially sanctioned and organized program called the Haavara Agreement, or Transfer Agreement, that got started in 1933 and continued functioning until well into 1942. As part of that process about 40 zionist retraining camps were set up throughout Germany where prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine.

In September of 1935 the Nuremberg Laws were introduced that consisted of; (1) “The Law of the Reich Citizen,” and (2) “The Law for the Protection of German Blood and German Honor.” With this, jews were no longer considered citizens of Germany but rather “subjects” of the Reich with limited rights, such as being no longer able to vote or hold public office. Jews and Germans were also restricted in being able to marry, something that many zionists supported as it kept jewish identity and culture intact.

The chapter ends with this: 

With the help of the Transfer Agreement, hundreds of thousands of Jews emigrated from Europe to Palestine. In September 1940 the Jews news agency in Palestine, “Palcor,” reported that 500,000 Jewish emigrants had already arrived from the German Reich, including Austria, the Sudetenland, Bohemia-Moravia, and German ruled Poland. Nevertheless, after 1950 it was claimed that the total number of Jewish emigrants to Palestine from all European countries was only about 80,000. What happened to the other 420,000 Jews? In 1940 they probably had no idea that later on they would be reported to have been ‘gassed’!” — KATANA.]









NOTE: The author has very generously given me permission to reproduce the material here — KATANA.

 The book can be bought at Amazon here: The Myth of German Villainy




The Myth of


German Villainy




Benton L. Bradberry








Chapter 1   –   The Myth of Germany as an Evil Nation

Germany’s Positive Image Changes Overnight 

Chapter 2   –   Aftermath of the War in Germany

The Versailles Treaty

Effect of the Treaty on the German Economy

Was the War Guilt Clause Fair?

Did Germany Really Start the War?

Chapter 3   –   The Jewish Factor in the War

Jews at the Paris Peace Conference

Jews in Britain

Chapter 4   –   The Russian Revolution of 1917

Bolsheviks Take Control

Jews and the Russian Revolution

Origin of East European Jews

Reason for the Russian Pogroms Against the Jews

Jews leave Russia for America

Financing the 1917 Revolution

Jews in the Government of Bolshevik Russia

Chapter 5   –   The Red Terror

Creation of the Gulag

Bolsheviks Kill the Czar

Jews as a Hostile Elite

The Ukrainian Famine (Holodomor)

Chapter 6   –   The Bolshevik Revolution Spreads throughout Europe

Jews in the Hungarian Revolution

Miklos Horthy Saves Hungary

Jews in the German Revolution

The Sparticist Uprising in Berlin

Jewish Bolsheviks Attempt to Take Italy

Jewish Bolsheviks Attempt to Take Spain — The Spanish Civil


Czechoslovakia in Danger of Communist Takeover

The Comintern’s Aim? World Domination!

Chapter 7   –   The Nation of Israel

History of the Expulsion of Jews

Chapter 8   –   Jews in Weimar Germany

Jews Undermine German Culture

Chapter 9   –   Hitler & National Socialists Rise to Power

The 25 Points of the National Socialist Party

Chapter 10  –  National Socialism vs. Communism

National Socialism

Jews Plan Marxist Utopia

Chapter 11  –  Jews Declare War on Nazi Germany

Text of Untermeyer’s Speech in New York

The Jewish Persecution Myth

Effect of Boycott on the German Economy

Jewish Exaggerations are Contradicted by Many

Chapter 12  –  The Nazis and the Zionists Actually Work Together for

Jewish Emigration out of Germany

The Nuremberg Laws – 1935

The Zionist Movement

Chapter 13  –  Life in Germany Under Hitler

Night of the Long Knives

1934 Annual Nazi Rally at Nuremberg

Hitler Revives the German Economy

Hitler Becomes the Most Popular Leader in the World

Chapter 14  –  Hitler Begins Reclamation of German Territory

Chapter 15  –  The 1936 Olympics

Chapter 16  –  Anschluss”. The Unification of Austria and Germany

Austrian Economy Revived

Austria’s Jews

Chapter 17  –  Germany Annexes the Sudetenland

Chapter 18  –  War with Poland

The Polish Problem

Hitler’s Proposal to Poland


German-Polish Talks Continue

Jews Influence both Roosevelt and Churchill

British and American Political Leaders Under Jewish Influence

Roosevelt’s Contribution to Hostilities

Lord Halifax Beats the War Drums

Germany Occupies Bohemia and Moravia

Roosevelt Pushes for War

Anti-war Movement Becomes Active

Poles Murder German Nationals Within the Corridor

Chapter 19  –  The Phony War

Russo-Finnish War

The Norway/Denmark Campaign

German Invasion of Denmark and Norway

Churchill Takes Chamberlain’s Place as Prime Minister

Chapter 20  –  Germany invades France Through the Low Countries.

The Phony War Ends.

Churchill the War Lover

The Fall of France

Hitler Makes Peace Offer to Britain

Chapter 21  –  The Allied Goal? Destruction of Germany!

Chapter 22  –  Germany as Victim

Rape and Slaughter

Jewish Vengeance

The Jewish Brigade

Chapter 23  –  Winners and Losers





Chapter 12


The Nazis and the Zionists


Actually Work Together for


Jewish Emigration Out of Germany 






The story of the emigration of the Jews from Germany has been totally distorted and misrepresented in contemporary historiography. The emigration of Jews from Germany is typically depicted as some sort of secret undertaking in which those Jews who wished to leave had to escape in the middle of the night, sneaking across borders, crossing over mountain ranges, and leaving behind all their goods and property. Other dramatizations describe the ruinous price the Jews had to pay for an exit visa. All of these poignant tales are nothing more than a stupid fantasy.


There is no doubt that the German government wanted the Jews to leave Germany, and that it applied increasing pressure to persuade them to do so. The anti-Jewish legislation of the Third Reich is a matter of historical fact which cannot be denied; and the hardship imposed upon the Jews was real. But contrary to all the hyperbolic tales and adventure stories contained in Jewish memoirs, Jewish emigration from Germany was a legal event carried out in accordance with established, published procedures.


German government offices and Jewish organizations worked hand in hand to facilitate the emigration. Jews interested in emigrating were extensively counseled and received considerable aid. All talk about a dangerous escape from Germany in the middle of the night is sheer nonsense. The National Socialists wanted to create a nation-state of ethnically pure Germans. The German government wanted the Jews to leave Germany. The Germany government did not stand in the way of Jewish emigration. To have done so would have undermined its own program.



[Add. image — Early in 1935, a passenger ship bound for Haifa in Palestine left the German port of Bremerhaven. Its stern bore the Hebrew letters for its name, “Tel Aviv”, while a swastika banner fluttered from the mast. And although the ship was Zionist-owned, its captain was a National Socialist Party member.]


Intrinsic to National Socialism was the precept that the Germans were a distinct race, and that they had every right to an ethnically and religiously homogeneous homeland. The Zionists were no less nationalistic than the Nazis and likewise declared the Jews to be a distinct race, even superior to others, i.e., the “Chosen People of God,” as they called themselves.

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